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    HDD/SDD defragmentation discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Olijke Poffer View Post
    I didn’t defrag the HD as I almost never do after an installation. Will take a look if the HD needs a defrag..
    A Defrag is not necessary. And as I see in your sig you are using a SSD you should never even think about Defrag of a ssd. Even if the OS let's you Defrag it, it would damage your ssd more than it helps. Defrag is only useful for old HDD drives but also only gives speed advantages and is not necessary for every driver or software installation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olijke Poffer View Post
    I didn’t defrag the HD as I almost never do after an installation. Will take a look if the HD needs a defrag..
    As I Said In My Prior post Some will say that its Not Needed.... But if its Not Needed then why would the option be there to Do it??? With that said some times your PC will install a program and it can become fragmented... 1 part here 1 part there another part some where else... When you defrag you consolidate all the fragmented parts back as a whole program... This Not only speed up your PC but helps programs run better.... Fragmented programs are like talking to a person who Stutters while you can still understand them it takes longer to process the info... With PC Fragmented Programs that talk in stutter can cause issues because everything Needs to happen immediately because the PC can't execute the Next command until it completes the first task... Bottom Line Defragging can't Hurt but it can Help especially if your having a issue with a program install or programs that won't load correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimeyDog View Post
    As I Said In My Prior post Some will say that its Not Needed.... But if its Not Needed then why would the option be there to Do it??? With that said some times your PC will install a program and it can become fragmented... 1 part here 1 part there another part some where else... When you defrag you consolidate all the fragmented parts back as a whole program... This Not only speed up your PC but helps programs run better.... Fragmented programs are like talking to a person who Stutters while you can still understand them it takes longer to process the info... With PC Fragmented Programs that talk in stutter can cause issues because everything Needs to happen immediately because the PC can't execute the Next command until it completes the first task... Bottom Line Defragging can't Hurt but it can Help especially if your having a issue with a program install or programs that won't load correctly.
    Grimey, this is very rarely the case. Once a program is loaded, it's in memory and if the original file on disk was fragmented or not makes no difference. Not even to mention that even if the program is very fragmented on disk, the time difference it would make it to load it compared to if it was defragmented, would be totally unnoticeable. Defrag makes sense only if the disk is extremely fragmented (after a very large amount of creation and deletion of files) and you are dealing with very large data files, in this case, yes, fragmentation can make a difference on handling of those files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maurice Boeschen View Post
    A Defrag is not necessary. And as I see in your sig you are using a SSD you should never even think about Defrag of a ssd. Even if the OS let's you Defrag it, it would damage your ssd more than it helps. Defrag is only useful for old HDD drives but also only gives speed advantages and is not necessary for every driver or software installation.
    I know, I’m a former IT guy .
    I did not installed it on my SSD but on my normal sata HDD. Which I never Defrag as well.
    I’m planning to buy a 2nd SSD as well but atm I do not have the mood to reinstall all games etc. Some will be movable via steam but others I need to reinstall.. time is the problem here. Lol.
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    if your new SSD is big enough to simply clone your old HDD, then you'll havent to reinstall any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satco1066 View Post
    if your new SSD is big enough to simply clone your old HDD, then you'll havent to reinstall any.
    Indeed but that won’t be the case. I have a 3TB sata filled to the max. So a clone won’t fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olijke Poffer View Post
    Indeed but that won’t be the case. I have a 3TB sata filled to the max. So a clone won’t fit.
    Then uninstall enough games so it will fit
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximusN View Post
    Then uninstall enough games so it will fit
    LoL.. yeah perhaps a wise idea as I only play a hand full..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimeyDog View Post
    As I Said In My Prior post Some will say that its Not Needed.... But if its Not Needed then why would the option be there to Do it??? With that said some times your PC will install a program and it can become fragmented... 1 part here 1 part there another part some where else... When you defrag you consolidate all the fragmented parts back as a whole program... This Not only speed up your PC but helps programs run better.... Fragmented programs are like talking to a person who Stutters while you can still understand them it takes longer to process the info... With PC Fragmented Programs that talk in stutter can cause issues because everything Needs to happen immediately because the PC can't execute the Next command until it completes the first task... Bottom Line Defragging can't Hurt but it can Help especially if your having a issue with a program install or programs that won't load correctly.
    Grimey, a SSD doesn't care about data fragmentation because it has no mechanical parts that could be slowed down by it.
    The only thing you're doing when defragmenting a SSD is to shorten its life cycle.
    SSDs are maintaining themselves by fragmentating data on purpose to equalize the "workload" over all memory cells.
    In simple words, you're actively damaging your SSD with this.
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    And BTW, when you try to defragment an SSD (in Win10 at least) it will refuse to do so, or at least discourage you with a similar argument as Bealdor posted above.
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