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  1. #181
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    I have just discovered a absolute game changer for me and my wheel.

    This line here

    # Scrub
    (Freq 0.47)

    I fiddled with it and found that its the cause of my rough feeling and notchyness under load and what i thought were rough track surfaces. they must just be high grip or something.

    after experimenting I found that increasing the Freq (Freq 1.00) completely smooths out my feedback. its like going from a G29 to a Fanatec.
    I can now be more aggressive with the wheel, for its feels like it might not break something anymore.

    the amount of time ive spent trying to dial this cogging sensation out is crazy.

    Im not sure what the trade off is but it still feel like good feedback .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuku Maddog View Post
    I have just discovered a absolute game changer for me and my wheel.

    This line here

    # Scrub
    (Freq 0.47)

    I fiddled with it and found that its the cause of my rough feeling and notchyness under load and what i thought were rough track surfaces. they must just be high grip or something.

    after experimenting I found that increasing the Freq (Freq 1.00) completely smooths out my feedback. its like going from a G29 to a Fanatec.
    I can now be more aggressive with the wheel, for its feels like it might not break something anymore.

    the amount of time ive spent trying to dial this cogging sensation out is crazy.

    Im not sure what the trade off is but it still feel like good feedback .
    I'm glad you found your issue. I did carefully dial that in with this update and thought that felt realistic to what lose of grip felt. To me, it felt rubber or tire like in the feedback. It does add road vibrations or subtle details to the road. Further, I plan to tie that into the speed of travel as that creates a different feel of grip instead of the repetitive pattern or frequency that it currently gives us. I'll go through and test out your findings.

    Thank you!
    Please try my awesome custom FFB file called PopsRacer FFB. Looking for feedback on all wheel bases. This is a huge upgrade to PCars2 IMHO!
    http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...Project-Cars-2

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    Hey Pops,

    Thanks you very much for your input in the silver project thread.
    I am answering your question reg. easy to change variable here, so you can easily find it.

    Since the custom file has "if as an expression", you can set a variable, in this example "Z", based on the value of another variable.

    So your ask:

    USER=1 ### <---THIS WOULD BE UP TO THE USER TO CHANGE

    IF USER=1 THEN Z=100 ###DD
    IF USER=2 THEN Z=225 ###highend Belt
    IF USER=3 THEN Z=278 ###geared wheels

    Can be done like this:

    (USER 1)

    (Z 2) #some fallback default value, in case the USER variable is given a wrong value
    (Z (if (- USER 1) Z 100)) # Explanation: "if" turns true if the expression it is given has a value != 0. In this case then "if (- USER 1)" means "if USER != 1". So "if USER != 1" we provide the current value of "Z", and otherwise we provide the value you need "100".
    (Z (if (- USER 2) Z 225))
    (Z (if (- USER 3) Z 278))

    This could have been in one long line, as nested if's, but that is far less readable.

    Hope this helps,

    -K
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    Thank you!
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    Last edited by goonchy; 16-09-2020 at 00:12.
    Please try my awesome custom FFB file called PopsRacer FFB. Looking for feedback on all wheel bases. This is a huge upgrade to PCars2 IMHO!
    http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...Project-Cars-2
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    New FFB has been released. Thanks to Coffee supporters for feedback. Special thanks to Karsten Hvidberg for programming feedback on user configs... Zen 1, 2, 3.

    ----v09.16.202---- Scaled Output down to 1.0, speed enhanced scrubbing, speed enhanced curbs, ZEN 1-2-3 (user choice selectable).

    https://dl.orangedox.com/8yEJO6wqoKWPh0sNnv

    Zen #2 is included in this download. Change the ZEN variable in the FFB TXT file to a higher output #1, #2, or #3 for a smoother output. This is all dependant on your wheelbase and your preference. Engine vibes have been tweaked in each one -- along with road, curb feel, and RPM cut-off ranges. Feedback would be greatly appreciated. ***You will need to restart the game each time you change this variable - 1, 2, 3.

    #####################################################
    (Zen 2) ### <---CHANGE THIS HERE
    #####################################################


    Deadzone input is still part of this FFB.

    You will need to increase your VOLUME even more. This is more PURE to the game and it makes a lot of sense when you try this. Remember it is just a number. If it is not clipping you will be getting a clear signal from the PC2.

    Thanks.... and enjoy!
    PopsRacer
    Last edited by goonchy; 17-09-2020 at 15:14.
    Please try my awesome custom FFB file called PopsRacer FFB. Looking for feedback on all wheel bases. This is a huge upgrade to PCars2 IMHO!
    http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...Project-Cars-2
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    Updated release!!!!

    ----v09.20.202---- Lots of changes in this file. I'd say this is a major version change

    https://dl.orangedox.com/0zf7RmH6yOV43qIWe7

    GOOD NEWS:
    This is a major release. This could very well include lots of bugs and errors, but I've put in another 20+ hours into this since the last release and wanted to get this out. This included two late night 2 am sleep deprived programming and testing expeditions. This release includes tire forces that have been ignored and lost from the old documentation WDM days. Yes, now we can feel the tires flex and deform and because of this the tire scrubbing, curbing, and breaking are even better. The ease at which I can feel the curbs or brick curbing on Red Bull is even more impressive! There is a 50/50 split between the normal true tire rack and the new tire forces. No scaling of the forces is used or needed.

    This release now includes a configurator system. You can now make this FFB fit your tastes and your wheel. Default values are included if you don't want to go through it. If you've done the Deadzone change you can read through the descriptions and change the 11 questions towards the beginning of the TXT file. It's really not hard. For example, if you wanted to change the Kerb force change variable #10 to 1 (strong), 2 (medium), or 3 (hard). The description of what it does is simplified and changed after you save the TXT file and restart the game. Yes, this is very crude, but it is effective. Change it, save it, and enjoy YOUR customized ZEN version of this FFB.

    # [10] ####################################################
    (Kerb_Bump_Zen 2) ### <---CHANGE THIS HERE
    ### 1= Strong, 2= Medium [Pops Default], 3= Light
    ### Description: Strength of the curb FX.

    BAD NEWS:
    The bad news is some road cars still have #$% ABS. If someone knows how to filter this from the FFB please help me! I am no programming expert. The other bad news is that the Deadzone is problematic for Logitech wheels. Enter your values manually or if someone has a universal solution please help me implement this. I am not a programming expert. The PC2 community will thank you!

    I really hope you enjoy this. The new feel to me has been very impressive and is what SMS had been trying to implement but their FFB wasn't strong enough. In my file and my wheel I can run this at a 1.0 scaling and it still feels amazing and strong enough on my Club Sport v2.5.

    All the Best!
    PopsRacer
    Please try my awesome custom FFB file called PopsRacer FFB. Looking for feedback on all wheel bases. This is a huge upgrade to PCars2 IMHO!
    http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...Project-Cars-2
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    I should actually have time to test this out and share feedback this week! Looking forward to enjoying some more quality PC2 time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonieGT View Post
    I should actually have time to test this out and share feedback this week! Looking forward to enjoying some more quality PC2 time!
    You are probably burnt out of racing/gaming after your amazing ~12 hour charity "drive".... An amazing job well done!!!
    All the best!
    Please try my awesome custom FFB file called PopsRacer FFB. Looking for feedback on all wheel bases. This is a huge upgrade to PCars2 IMHO!
    http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/sho...Project-Cars-2

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    I AM worn out but it was worth it! An awesome experience to have shared with my son. And awesome to see so many sim racers (like YOU) helping out.
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    Hi Pops

    Very interesting new file. It’s like trying to decide on what to get on the menu at McDonald’s, lol
    Maybe too much choice ?

    But anyway, I’ve not had much of a chance to play with it yet.
    Just a few laps, but I immediately felt it was very springy in the steering.
    One quick test of changing split between rack and tires to 60/40 made it feel better.
    Also the oversteer oscillation feels a little strong .
    Will hopefully get some more laps in after work today.
    My rig ..... is not worthy
    T300Rs Gt wheel , T3pa Pro inverted pedals
    32" curved Konka 144hz monitor
    Acer AIO ( awaiting funds to replace) , please donate to the cause https://www.buymeacoffee.com/KukuMaddog
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