Project CARS PS4 Patch 4.0 Release Notes

[Elmo]

Good news everyone,

the Patch 4.0 on PS4 has already gone live. Below you find the release notes.


Project CARS – PS4 Patch 4.0 – Release Notes

New & Enhanced Feature Summary
• Online – added support for 'Force Default Setups' in Multiplayer restrictions screen.
• Online – players driving the wrong way will now have their collision disabled and their vehicles will display as ghost cars.
• Online – lobby search settings are now saved between sessions.
• Career – mandatory pitstop opening lap will now scale when the player scales the length of the race. For example, if the race was set to 5 laps, the pits would open for
the mandatory stop on lap 2. If the player now scales the race length to 15 laps, the pits will open on lap 6 for the mandatory pitstop.
• HUD – when adjusting real-time settings, for example Brake Balance, the player will now see a HUD message to indicate what the setting has been changed to. The HUD will display “N/A” in the real-time settings HUD, messaging when a specific setting is not available due to it being disabled in MP session or not present on the vehicle.
• GUI – added a game version number display to the main menu.
• Assists – Enhanced Brake Assistance system so that people who are unable to use
brake controllers at all can still play the game with this assist enabled.
• Assists – the Best Line assist now provides an option to only show the braking areas
• Tracks - Movable trackside objects and broken-off car parts will now be removed from the track after impacts.

Online
• New – added support for 'Force Default Setups' in Multiplayer restrictions screen.
• New – players driving the wrong way will now have their collision disabled and their vehicles will display as ghost cars.
• New – lobby search settings are now saved between sessions.
• Fixed an issue where the AI could remain stuck on the grid after the previous host left the session.
• Fixed an issue where the player was unable to select the Bentley GT3 in online races.
• Fixed an issue in Create Lobby where selecting Vehicle ‘view details’ would reset the class filter.
• Fixed an issue where the in-game chat box would scroll when the player pressed the accelerator and brake controls.
• Various tweaks to the behaviour of cars that are terminally damaged, and cars will no longer try to teleport to the garage if there are no pit lanes.
• Fixed an issue where the player could drive out of the garage again after retiring from a race.
• Further tweaks and improvements to the online lobby Car Class GUI – classes are now sorted alphabetically; changes are now only apply once the player accepts the new settings; ‘Create’ options defaults to ‘Any’ class; fixes an issue where the host would see only one vehicle in the quick vehicle chooser list if identical vehicles was
set to ‘yes’.
• Fixed the rolling start option so that toggling the rolling start flag correctly updates MP game data.

Time Trial
• The standings info on the pause screen now shows real-time updated lap and standings info, and sorts the order of all active participants based on lap times.
• Fixed an issue where the player's best of session ghost time didn’t always exactly match his actual best of session time.

Pitting, Tuning, Setups, Strategy
• Fixed an issue where a selected tyre option saved to a setup prior to Patch 3.0 would cause a game crash after applying Patch 3.0 and using that saved setup.
• Fixed an issue where tyre pressures were not resetting properly when returning to pits.
• Fixed an issue where brake temperatures were being reset when the player entered the pits, leading to unexpected braking behaviour.
• Adjustments to fuel calculations when returning to pits during a practice session – when calculating the required fuel when the player returns to the pits, the estimated fuel levels are used for consistency.

Physics & AI
• Tyres – small adjustment to peak slip ratio or P Zero Trofeo, Faretti Track, and other soft-track road tires for road cars.
• Various improvements to AI navigation when entering and leaving the pit boxes.
• Improved the transition from road to off-road as certain off-road surfaces caused too much jarring on the steering.

Cut Track / Off Track System
• Sakitto International – further tweaks to the downhill Esses, to keep the AI on track when attempting bad passes that were causing the AI to hit the exit barriers.
• Various tracks – Nordschleife, Greenwood Karting, Silverstone National, Dubai GP, Barcelona National, Nurburgring Sprint Short – cut-track improvements based on latest community feedback.

Career
• Fixed an issue where the player would be placed first on the grid of race two in a multi-race round, after being disqualified from the first race. Disqualified drivers will now be placed at the back of the grid.
• DLC Career Accolades are now only present if the appropriate DLC pack is installed. This fixes an issue where the player was unable to do 100% completion of accolades due to non-purchased DLCs accolades also being present.
• Fixed an issue where bonus points were not being awarded for Kart series and some invitational events.
• Fixed a bug where the invitational events that require winning team championships weren't always unlocking.
• DLC Career Accolades – translated (non-English) strings added for Invitational Accolade – 320 Touring Challenge
• Fix to make sure player is placed last after skipping/simulating, in races where the second-best qualifying time is used for grid placement for the 2nd race (this was affecting Formula Rookie, LMP1-3, GT5 and Touring races).
• New – mandatory pitstop opening lap will now scale as well when the player scales the length of the race. For example, if the race was set to 5 laps, the pits would open for the mandatory stop on lap 2. If the player now scales the race length to 15 laps, the pits will open on lap 6 for the mandatory pitstop
• Improved Contract system to allow for extra entry level contract awards when progressing to a new motorsport, or when only being offered a renewal for the current motorsport.
• Improved the AI logic during races with Mandatory pit stops so that they will pick a more optimal time to stop when there is also changing weather at play.

Audio
• Tweaks to the Ginetta GT3, Clio and Bentley Speed 8.

GUI, HUD, Telemetry
• New – when adjusting real-time settings, for example Brake Balance, the player will now see a HUD message to indicate what the setting has been changed to. The HUD will display “N/A” in the real-time settings HUD messaging when a specific setting is not available due to it being disabled in MP session or not present on the vehicle.
• New – added a game version number display to the main menu.
• New – the Best Line assist now provides an option to only show the braking areas.
• Rebalanced the point at which Forecast weather becomes Current weather in the UI display so that the info display changeover better matches what the player is seeing in-game.
• Track temperature is now displayed on all in-game menus.
• Fixed an issue where the Time Progression slider skipped every 2nd option when moving the slider left or right.
• Track temperature will now display correctly based on the unit system and language selected by the player.
• Fixed an issue where the tyre wear meters on the HUD telemetry screen were flipped for the right front and left rear tyres.
• Track Temperature and Weather information are now positioned uniformly across all in-game screens.
• Removed redundant leading zeros from the KERS motec display.
• Fixed an issue where accessing the map or telemetry in the monitor screen would disable the player HUD in game.
• Enabled scrolling of the drivers list on the post race Standings screen.
• Vehicle Class icons – updated vintage F1 and vintage GT class icons.
• New GUI image with real-world livery for Ford Capri Group5.
• Fixed an issue where the menu borders would at times display unintended colours.

Replays
• Replays – fixed an issue where vehicle damage would automatically be repaired when watching a replay.

Controls & FFB
• Steering wheel angle now reverted to always centering during pause / pits / menus / etc. An alternative fix is now implemented to prevent the jolting when un-pausing the game.
• Fixed an issue where force feedback was still active when an AI team mate was driving the player’s car.
• Fixed an issue where calibrating the pedals could at times cause the pedals to function incorrectly.
• Logitech – updated pedal mappings for the G29 to match the latest hardware revisions.
• Fanatec – added use of accelerator rumble on CSW Base v2.
• Fanatec – CSR Elite 2nd dpad removed (as per SDK change); handbrake now works when attached to pedals via wheel base; added support for CSP connected via USB.
• Fanatec – upgraded to SDK 1.6.1 – fixes reversing of the CSS shifter gear up / down sequential mode.
• Fixed an issue with the Fanatec CSS connected via USB to the PS4, the wheel paddles stopped functioning.

Vehicles
• Audi A1 Quattro – changed class to Road C2.
• Audi R18 e-tron – added hybrid/KERS readout to cockpit display.
• BAC Mono – fixed duplicate material name causing a problem on painted cockpit parts.
• BMW 2002 Turbo – tweaked default tyres and brake balance so that the default setup provides a better overall performance versus the other cars in its class.
• BMW 320TC – fixed the top speed statistic displayed in the front-end.
• Caterham SP300R – added push-to-pass boost gauge to cockpit display and enabled exhaust backfire.
• Ford Escort and Mustang 2+2 Fastback – tweaks to help reduce climbing other vehicles during side-to-side contact.
• Ford Mustang 2+2 Fastback – fix for shadow flicker on AI cars.
• Ford Capri Group5 – fixed offset rear fenders.
• Ford Mustang GT 2015 – reduced FFB tire force multiplier by 25%.
• Gumpert Apollo – re-added four exhausts.
• Marek/RWD LMP cars – improved the default view position.
• Ruf CTR – recalibrated engine boost and allow up to 1.4bar boost in setup to match original car. Stock boost of 1.1bar provides around 470hp as advertised.
• Added hybrid boost gauge to display for McLaren P1, Marek RP339h LMP1, RWD P30 LMP1.
• Ruf CTR – Fixed an issue where the external side mirrors were switched.
• Audi R18 e-tron – Rebalanced cockpit exposure/brightness.

Tracks
• Le Mans – lowered the entry part of the kerb in the Mulsanne corner to fix the issue where cars would register a collision with the kerb.

General
• New – movable trackside objects and broken-off car parts will now be removed from the track after impacts.
• Enhanced Brake Assistance system so that people who are unable to use brake controllers at all can still play the game with this assist enabled.
• Reworked the stretched headlight reflections to be more accurate to real life.
• Fixed an issue where the Driving Line assist would become invisible when particles were set to off.
• Ensure that players cannot turn on assists using hotkeys in community events, when the assists have been explicitly disabled for the event in question.
• Fix further cases where the pre-race cameras would at times cut into the track surface.
• Fixed an issue where vehicle windows would at times not render correctly when using centre cockpit cam and helmet cam.
• Tweaks to gamma settings to closer match the PC and Xbox One platforms.
• Fixed a potential crash when returning from in-game to main menu.
• Fixed an issue with the rendering of shadow edges, improving overall shadow rendering.
• Improved general game stability.

[Pappa_Stig]

Excellent list of fixes and improvements. I'm impressed by how much is in this patch, considering how quickly it's been done. Great work everyone at SMS! Know that we all appreciate this support, :)

[Deadzone]

Great update all round.

Especially this.- GUI, HUD, Telemetry
• New – when adjusting real-time settings, for example Brake Balance, the player will now see a HUD message to indicate what the setting has been changed to. The HUD will display “N/A” in the real-time settings HUD messaging when a specific setting is not available due to it being disabled in MP session or not present on the vehicle.

This Is great being able to see what the adjustments are. I've only tried the Oreca Nissan, but I could not find where the ARB settings are shown on the hud. I found the brake balance display on the tire/break temp page.
Where do I find the ARB display, or is there no display for the roll bars.

[Jan Studenski]

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• Tracks - Movable trackside objects and broken-off car parts will now be removed from the track after impacts.
...

How long does this take?

[SUBGTRACER]

Great update all round.

Especially this.- GUI, HUD, Telemetry
• New – when adjusting real-time settings, for example Brake Balance, the player will now see a HUD message to indicate what the setting has been changed to. The HUD will display “N/A” in the real-time settings HUD messaging when a specific setting is not available due to it being disabled in MP session or not present on the vehicle.

This Is great being able to see what the adjustments are. I've only tried the Oreca Nissan, but I could not find where the ARB settings are shown on the hud. I found the brake balance display on the tire/break temp page.
Where do I find the ARB display, or is there no display for the roll bars.

Yes +1 to this , looks like a good patch .

[Elmo]

Great update all round.

Especially this.- GUI, HUD, Telemetry
• New – when adjusting real-time settings, for example Brake Balance, the player will now see a HUD message to indicate what the setting has been changed to. The HUD will display “N/A” in the real-time settings HUD messaging when a specific setting is not available due to it being disabled in MP session or not present on the vehicle.

This Is great being able to see what the adjustments are. I've only tried the Oreca Nissan, but I could not find where the ARB settings are shown on the hud. I found the brake balance display on the tire/break temp page.
Where do I find the ARB display, or is there no display for the roll bars.

This will show as a little pop-up on the screen when you adjust it, not on car display.


How long does this take?

Roughly a minute I think. When I tested it the debris was gone the next lap.

[SUBGTRACER]

How long does this take?

Don't run over the marshals when they pick the broken pieces up.

[Fre.Mo]

Great lap SMS, keep pushing. ;)

I can't wait testing the new HUD improvements...

[Chevi]

Awsome Patch! Great work, great support... :)

One question about the "improved contract system". How does it work in detail?

[i-am-the-stig]

Why hasn't there been any improvements on the freezing when someone joins or leaves the lobby when qualifying

[wOoDsTeR16]

I see the ps4 lads are downloading it already, and there is nothing about connection issues being fixed!

[SUBGTRACER]

I see the ps4 lads are downloading it already, and there is nothing about connection issues being fixed!

connection issues?

[Ian Bell]

Why hasn't there been any improvements on the freezing when someone joins or leaves the lobby when qualifying

There are, join lag has been minimised as much as is possible in our environment.

[wOoDsTeR16]

connection issues?

On the xbox but from what I have been seeing the last few days since I have been in a ps4 group on FB they have been having the same problems

[Deadzone]

This will show as a little pop-up on the screen when you adjust it, not on car display..

Oh, ok. I did see the onscreen message pop up with the "I" for increase and "D" for decrease value. I was just expecting to see the actual value shown on screen somewhere like it shows brake balance. As it is now you still have to remember how many times you pressed the ARB button and correlate that to the values shown in the setup menu. Maybe next update they can display ARB values in the hud.

[mjemec11]

• Improved the transition from road to off-road as certain off-road surfaces caused too much jarring on the steering.

Does this mean Laguna Seca's dirt is no longer so magnetic? :)

Awesome patch as always! Hats off!

[SUBGTRACER]

Oh, ok. I did see the onscreen message pop up with the "I" for increase and "D" for decrease value. I was just expecting to see the actual value shown on screen somewhere like it shows brake balance. As it is now you still have to remember how many times you pressed the ARB button and correlate that to the values shown in the setup menu. Maybe next update they can display ARB values in the hud.

no values :(

[Deadzone]

no values :(

There is for brake balance but not ARB as far as I can work out

[Elmo]

Please try setting the anti-roll bar (arb) in the Formula A, as it is one of the few cars we have in game that allow for adjusting the arbs during driving. It shows the actual value.

If a car can't change its arb while driving it displays "N/A" (not available).

[Equation]

Just wake up and read from other forum that PS4 patch is avaible for download. Great job guys!

Hope for next patch:
Mid-session save. That means that you can pause game, save it and continue later. This is helpful for endurance race.

[Deadzone]

Please try setting the anti-roll bar (arb) in the Formula A, as it is one of the few cars we have in game that allow for adjusting the arbs during driving. It shows the actual value.

If a car can't change its arb while driving it displays "N/A" (not available).

I just tried the F1 car, sorry, but I cannot see the ARB values in the hud,motec or telemetry anywhere. There seems to be a blank motec screen in the FA, perhaps this is supposed to show ARB values?
Also, noticed while doing thes tests that the game seems to run a little smother overall. Keep the improvements coming, good work.

[Fong74]

There is for brake balance but not ARB as far as I can work out

No it isnt. Just tried it. It says "B" if you move the brake balance forth and back (you see the value in the MoTec though, where available).

Would be perfect if we could see the actual values set instead of the currently displayed characters in the future :angel:


Nevertheless, very nice patch again guys. Thanks a lot!

[Pink_650S]

Just wake and read from other forum that PS4 patch is avaible for download. Great job guys!

Hope for next patch:
Mid-session save. That means that you can pause game, save it and continue later. This is helpful for endurance race.

A staff member has mentioned that this feature will never make it into the game.

[ChrisK]

No idea how the roll bar HUD is supposed to help. I get a d and a I flash up but what does that mean ? It just seems like a confirmation that a key has been pressed. Without knowing the value what's the point exactly ?

Am I missing something ?

[Pink_650S]

Cool patch with detail fixes, thanks guys :)
Still hoping for my personal Top 3 issues to be fixed.

- Pitstops
- Landmine
- Glueing Cars

I shall never give up hope.

[Jan Studenski]

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- Glueing Cars
...

This is not an issue per se ... its just slightly overdone ...


A staff member has mentioned that this feature will never make it into the game.

IIRC he said its unlikely

[mjemec11]

One more question...


• Online – added support for 'Force Default Setups' in Multiplayer restrictions screen.

Does this keep the car's FFB values at default as well?

[ONT]

Looks like a good patch.


I see lot's and lot's of requests for ability for online host to KICK player with bad behavior, wrecking and other MAYHEM.

Any progress on this ?

[Pink_650S]

This is not an issue per se ... its just slightly overdone ...



IIRC he said its unlikely

Its overdone = issue.
Sorry, l havent written down the exact quote. But we know what "unlikely" actually means, right? :p

[Mascot]

I guess this opens the door for the next DLC too..?

[Jescott71]

I love the changes to mandatory pitstops. It always used to bug me being called into the pits on lap 2 of a 33 lap race, and every lap after that if you didn't pit.

[Jan Studenski]

Its overdone = issue.
Sorry, l havent written down the exact quote. But we know what "unlikely" actually means, right? :p

Not necessarily is "overdone = issue" ... in this case imo its not overdone much ... actually out of 30 races i have 1nce a collision which this is a very short problem. Just race clean and fair and search for such a league / group. :D

"Unlikely" means "probably not" :P

[Sunday Racers]

Great to see the game improving and evolving. Thanks SMS!

[pablomk3]

This is the Way!!! Bravo, Thanks SMS

[Photonmonkey]

I didn't expect to see this when I logged onto the forum this morning, great news and just shows SMS have not ditched PCARS keep it coming guys I applaud you for the ongoing support, other big studios need to take note, cannot wait to download this evening :)

[antraxx25]

Very good job, can't waiting for it on PS4.
Thank you SMS!

[Fong74]

One more question...

• Online – added support for 'Force Default Setups' in Multiplayer restrictions screen.

Does this keep the car's FFB values at default as well?

Unfortunately the option seems to have no effect at all atm. Tested it few minutes back to answer your question, as I was curious how this point was solved.

Default Setup: Yes
Driving Aids: Realistic
Damage, Flags: all on
Track: Watkins Glen GP
Car: Audi R8 GT3

I had a setup for that car and for that track before. Its still there. I can change values, save them etc. The effect remains through all sessions. In the race my setup is on the car also.

So basically, the option is there, but has no effect.


Am I doing something wrong? Do I have to delete my savegame/profile to make all v4.0 changes active/work?

[tgrey]

Just wake and read from other forum that PS4 patch is avaible for download. Great job guys!

Hope for next patch:
Mid-session save. That means that you can pause game, save it and continue later. This is helpful for endurance race.

A huge +1 on that request. But if I remember the previous conversation correctly, Ian didn't like this because he was "saving on every corner" or something like that... that's his problem tho, some OCD people want to play games like that, fine, let them :boxing:

But really, an easy and fair middle ground is to only allow saves when you enter the pits. It would yield a huge time disadvantage if you're abusing it... but it's perfect for endurance racing if you at least get out and wear out a set of tires.

If nothing else, this should be considered because without it TM wheel users are screwed... we can't (aren't supposed to) suspend the system during the race. Supposedly it's bad for the wheel or something.

These patch notes look awesome tho... I'm bummed that I'm out of town for a week and won't get to try it. :(

[TrevorAustin]

Why hasn't there been any improvements on the freezing when someone joins or leaves the lobby when qualifying

Well done, you're first.

[leithnow]

But really, an easy and fair middle ground is to only allow saves when you enter the pits. It would yield a huge time disadvantage if you're abusing it... but it's perfect for endurance racing if you at least get out and wear out a set of tires.(

This is a good idea.

[i-am-the-stig]

There are, join lag has been minimised as much as is possible in our environment.

OK thanks for your reply

[ElectricBlues85]

One more question...



Does this keep the car's FFB values at default as well?

Also interested to find out about this. Will have a go this morning and see what I can find out!

[Racer Pro]

the 4.0 is not out in canada :(

[Fong74]

There are, join lag has been minimised as much as is possible in our environment.

It really has been minimized. Not totally extincted, but minimized to a level I can live with. Been in a public lobby with lots of ppl joining/quitting. I could drive almost without noticing the lag. Very pleased with the improvement! Thanks SMS!

[Ramiboo]

Don't run over the marshals when they pick the broken pieces up.

Come on, this would be awesome!!!!! An actual marshal running out to pick up the parts. Yellow flag in that zone, or even a safety car. Yellow flags could be policed by monitoring the sector time to make sure the driver slows enough!!!! Do it SMS, do it!!!!! :eagerness:

Great work SMS BTW.

[Maurice Boeschen]

How to deactivate throttle vibration on CSPv3 connected to CSWv2 in the PC Version?

[FLX81]

What a nice surprise and some great stuff in there. Big thumbs up! :cool:

[boksandbom]

May i understand this right ?
this could be huge :
- "support for CSP connected via USB "
could this mean i can use my t 300 RS and fanatec club sport v3 on ps4 each one connected via usb to ps4 ??
Literraly a game changer for console owners who want mix thrustmaster whell and fanatec pedals.

[Pink_650S]

Not necessarily is "overdone = issue" ... in this case imo its not overdone much ... actually out of 30 races i have 1nce a collision which this is a very short problem. Just race clean and fair and search for such a league / group. :D

"Unlikely" means "probably not" :P

Why are you assuming l'm not driving clean? Have you ever raced against me?
I organize a league and after every race we have at least one complaint about cars glueing together.
Its actually very unrealistic, no cars glue together in real life when they have door-to-door contact, trying to go through a corner together.

[Ramiboo]

May i understand this right ?
this could be huge :
- "support for CSP connected via USB "
could this mean i can use my t 300 RS and fanatec club sport v3 on ps4 each one connected via usb to ps4 ??
Literraly a game changer for console owners who want mix thrustmaster whell and fanatec pedals.
+1 - Please answer this question, my T500 pedals are nearly worn out, and an upgrade path for me would definitely be a set of CS V3 pedals.

[hitmanvega]

Nice surprise....:D:loyal:

[mantukas334]

no improvements on replays :(

[Sankyo]

May i understand this right ?
this could be huge :
- "support for CSP connected via USB "
could this mean i can use my t 300 RS and fanatec club sport v3 on ps4 each one connected via usb to ps4 ??
Literraly a game changer for console owners who want mix thrustmaster whell and fanatec pedals.
Yes, you can now connect your CSPs through USB on PS4.

EDIT But it only works in combination with Fanatec wheels, not with other brand wheels, sorry.

[Pink_650S]

@elmo: Audi A1 Quattro has been moved to C2 :)

[Mascot]

Good news everyone

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• Fanatec – CSR Elite 2nd dpad removed (as per SDK change)


These two statements are incompatible.

Can I please ask why support for the second dpad was removed? I've just bought a (very expensive) Formula rim for my CSRE, and the extra controller mapping that the second dpad allowed was a big part of that decision. If it worked before, and wasn't hurting anyone... why remove it?

Consider me annoyed.

[RimanDk]

AWESOME patch notes! Can't wait to get home and try it all out! =D Well done as always!

Reading the comments it sounds like the hud readouts for real time adjustments still need work. If that's the case, I hope it can be fixed asap. That's the main item I am really looking forward to.

[Sum Dixon-Ear]

These two statements are incompatible.

Can I please ask why support for the second dpad was removed? I've just bought a Formula rim for my CSRE, and the extra controller mapping that the second dpad allowed was a big part of that decision. If it worked before, and wasn't hurting anyone... why remove it?

Consider me annoyed.

The second joystick was invaluable to me... look left/right, headlights and pit stop request gone?!?!

Consider me annoyed as well.

[mister dog]

I guess ghosting the trolls is the biggest improvement for online races.
Was that something that happened a lot?

[Goruk]

Great work on the patch SMS..

I have an honest question, how hard is to implement adjustble on-the-fly traction control and ABS like the real GT3 cars have?
Being this a sim it does´t make sense that this feature is not available, especially with the beautiful dynamic wheather that it have.

[Deadzone]

Great work on the patch SMS..

I have an honest question, how hard is to implement adjustble on-the-fly traction control and ABS like the real GT3 cars have?
Being this a sim it does´t make sense that this feature is not available, especially with the beautiful dynamic wheather that it have.
You know you can map abs,tcs,stb to a button and turn them on/off while driving.
Edit, I just re-read your post, I guess your talking about adjusting traction control slip percentage.

[Pink_650S]

Great work on the patch SMS..

I have an honest question, how hard is to implement adjustble on-the-fly traction control and ABS like the real GT3 cars have?
Being this a sim it does´t make sense that this feature is not available, especially with the beautiful dynamic wheather that it have.

By that do you mean being able to turn them on and off while driving?
If so, you can do that.

[Goruk]

You know you can map abs,tcs,stb to a button and turn them on/off while driving.

Yes I know, thanks... but do you know real GT3 drivers can adjust the strength of the ABS and TC while driving?
What i need is to adjust the TC from 1% to 15% while driving...

[Titzon Toast]

Great to see SMS still working away at making this game better but, why put all the effort into adjusting the Racing line to allow it to be made Braking only, but not give us a host option to disable it for online lobbies?

[Cheesenium]

A huge +1 on that request. But if I remember the previous conversation correctly, Ian didn't like this because he was "saving on every corner" or something like that... that's his problem tho, some OCD people want to play games like that, fine, let them :boxing:

But really, an easy and fair middle ground is to only allow saves when you enter the pits. It would yield a huge time disadvantage if you're abusing it... but it's perfect for endurance racing if you at least get out and wear out a set of tires.

If nothing else, this should be considered because without it TM wheel users are screwed... we can't (aren't supposed to) suspend the system during the race. Supposedly it's bad for the wheel or something.

These patch notes look awesome tho... I'm bummed that I'm out of town for a week and won't get to try it. :(

I think Ian or a SMS staff said that we might get some sort of pits save as it is more doable than midgame save. Midgame save needs a lot more work to do because you need the game to save a lot of data when you save as you are moving.

I wont mind if we get mid game pits save. That would be nice where I can have actual 24 hours races that is stretched over a month. :P

[Sankyo]

Can I please ask why support for the second dpad was removed?
I've been told that it was removed from the SDK to make way for allowing a handbrake to be connected to the wheel.

[Mascot]

I've been told that it was removed from the SDK to make way for allowing a handbrake to be connected to the wheel.

Thanks for the reply, but I still don't quite understand. Why can't you have both?

I think the removal of the second joystick is going to piss off every Formula rim user out there. It's a very odd decision. Not happy.

[Sum Dixon-Ear]

I've been told that it was removed from the SDK to make way for allowing a handbrake to be connected to the wheel.

Having an ugly-arsed handbrake attached to an F1 style rig... genius.

Ooooh, maybe I can drift with my F1 rim now... :mad:

[Mascot]

Having an ugly-arsed handbrake attached to an F1 style rig... genius.

Ooooh, maybe I can drift with my F1 rim now... :mad:

Looks like this is a PS4-only issue. PC users get to keep the second joystick.

Who should my anger be aimed at? SMS or Fanatec?

[Sum Dixon-Ear]

Looks like this is a PS4-only issue. PC users get to keep the second joystick.

Who should my anger be aimed at? SMS or Fanatec?

Who knows... keep both barrels loaded!

[Stephen Viljoen]

A few more items that we managed to slip into the final patch build:

• Ruf CTR – Fixed an issue where the external side mirrors were switched.
• Fixed an issue where the menu borders would at times display unintended colours.
• Audi R18 e-tron – Rebalanced cockpit exposure/brightness.
• Improved general game stability.

Elmo, please add to the first post.

[Sum Dixon-Ear]

Yesterday I had a fully functioning F1 rim with twin joysticks to enable mapping for all the essential functions that an F1 driver needs - KERS, DRS, look left/right, adjust roll-bars, brake bias, request/cancel pit stops etc etc... not now. I have lost 4 mappable buttons so that I can have the option of an effing handbrake... IT'S AN F1 RIM!... I despair, I really do.

[Bealdor]

A few more items that we managed to slip into the final patch build:

• Ruf CTR – Fixed an issue where the external side mirrors were switched.
• Fixed an issue where the menu borders would at times display unintended colours.
• Audi R18 e-tron – Rebalanced cockpit exposure/brightness.
• Improved general game stability.

Elmo, please add to the first post.

I'm not Elmo but I added the additional fixes to the OP.

[Slicker_VR]

are pink650s and myself the only two who've noticed that this patch fails to address any of the real game-breaking bugs?

[wOoDsTeR16]

Yesterday I had a fully functioning F1 rim with twin joysticks to enable mapping for all the essential functions that an F1 driver needs - KERS, DRS, look left/right, adjust roll-bars, brake bias, request/cancel pit stops etc etc... not now. I have lost 4 mappable buttons so that I can have the option of an effing handbrake... it's an F1 rim... I despair, I really do.

Oh thats just great news, something I am really looking forward to!. FA is pretty much all I use and like you have the F1 rim, xbox ain't got the patch yet but that's stupid!, its a racing sim so why need a bleeding hand break. 1 step forward, 10 back!

[Stephen Viljoen]

Typo in the first post, to confirm, it should be:

* Audi A1 Quattro – changed class to Road C2.

[Scuderia Paul]

Great list that guys. Looking forward to getting home to try some of those out. I'm excited for the upcoming DLC too.

Do you plan on adding a 'Save Livery' option in a future update? Having it default to random drives me mad.

[Raven403]

Great, only 2 weeks away from xbox launch......

[Mad Al]

Oh thats just great news, something I am really looking forward to!. FA is pretty much all I use and like you have the F1 rim, xbox ain't got the patch yet but that's stupid!, its a racing sim so why need a bleeding hand break. 1 step forward, 10 back!
You may want to go back and read all the thread and check what hardware the change relates to...

[Siberian Tiger]

Yesterday I had a fully functioning F1 rim with twin joysticks to enable mapping for all the essential functions that an F1 driver needs - KERS, DRS, look left/right, adjust roll-bars, brake bias, request/cancel pit stops etc etc... not now. I have lost 4 mappable buttons so that I can have the option of an effing handbrake... IT'S AN F1 RIM!... I despair, I really do.


It's a change in the SDK of Fanatec! As far i know. Nothing SMS has influence of...

[Sum Dixon-Ear]

It's a change in the SDK of Fanatec! As far i know. Nothing SMS has influence of...
Yeah, I saw that.. it's still a monumentally stupid idea... thus the rant.

[odytsak]

Congrats SMS for new patch and support but first, fix the issue with glitch community trophy.

[Cholton82]

A good size patch and a nice surprise, I was hoping for a few other things to be addressed like ai retirements and flags but it's good and positive yet again for the most part . Thanks

[chig88]

Am I right in thinking that when changing roll bars etc on the fly it isn't actually showing you the value you've changed to?

If that's the case it's really not all that useful is it? If it's just a confirmation that you've changed it +/-, surely you'd already know that given which button you pressed?

[Bealdor]

Am I right in thinking that when changing roll bars etc on the fly it isn't actually showing you the value you've changed to?

If that's the case it's really not all that useful is it? If it's just a confirmation that you've changed it +/-, surely you'd already know that given which button you pressed?

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?39377-Project-CARS-PS4-Patch-4-0-Release-Notes&p=1121779&viewfull=1#post1121779

[Bruno Alexandre]

Am I right in thinking that when changing roll bars etc on the fly it isn't actually showing you the value you've changed to?

If that's the case it's really not all that useful is it? If it's just a confirmation that you've changed it +/-, surely you'd already know that given which button you pressed?

It should be displaying something like "Increase Brake Bias 59/100" but on the PS4 we've just notice it says only "I" and "D", so most of the information is missing. We will fix it, apologies for the error.

[madmax2069]

• Fixed an issue where the player was unable to select the Bentley GT3 in online races.

I only hope that this fixes the issue with not being able to select the other DLC cars as well, as the issue wasn't just limited to the Bently. Because after I bought the Old vs New DLC I could select the Bentley again, just not any of the other new DLC cars (both Mustangs, RUF CTR, the other RUF, BMW 2002 turbo as they would resort to one of the other cars the game shipped with).

[Paulo Ribeiro]

I only hope that this fixes the issue with not being able to select the other DLC cars as well, as the issue wasn't just limited to the Bently.

Indeed.

[GrimeyDog]

Did the update come out for PS4 yet??? I havent been on PS4 PCars in a Day or so... Ive been Playing it on XB1 the Game Updated when i Installed it so im Not Sure what update XB1 is upto is it also out on XB1 yet too... Last update was 3.0 im sure Both systems have that Not Sure if XB1 updated to 4.0 and i Need to turn on the PS4 and update it also.

[chig88]

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?39377-Project-CARS-PS4-Patch-4-0-Release-Notes&p=1121779&viewfull=1#post1121779

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?39377-Project-CARS-PS4-Patch-4-0-Release-Notes&p=1121786&viewfull=1#post1121786

[rocafella1978]

anyone know release in time/ date for North America?

[Sunday Racers]

Unfortunately the option seems to have no effect at all atm. Tested it few minutes back to answer your question, as I was curious how this point was solved.

Default Setup: Yes
Driving Aids: Realistic
Damage, Flags: all on
Track: Watkins Glen GP
Car: Audi R8 GT3

I had a setup for that car and for that track before. Its still there. I can change values, save them etc. The effect remains through all sessions. In the race my setup is on the car also.

So basically, the option is there, but has no effect.


Am I doing something wrong? Do I have to delete my savegame/profile to make all v4.0 changes active/work?

I do hope not as that's the one patch feature that I'm interested in.

Can anyone else confirm this is the case?

[phinn]

Woa another big patch already!? You guys are awesome. Driveclub and Forza who?
Turning on my PS4 remotely from my phone app so it can update :)

Wanted to again request more US tracks. I know it's unlikely but I'd love to see (and pay for) unique ones like Pike's Peak (so many turns up a mountain is very unique and beautiful) and Circuit of the Americas (US's new F1 track, speaks for itself).

[Pink_650S]

Unfortunately the option seems to have no effect at all atm. Tested it few minutes back to answer your question, as I was curious how this point was solved.

Default Setup: Yes
Driving Aids: Realistic
Damage, Flags: all on
Track: Watkins Glen GP
Car: Audi R8 GT3

I had a setup for that car and for that track before. Its still there. I can change values, save them etc. The effect remains through all sessions. In the race my setup is on the car also.

So basically, the option is there, but has no effect.


Am I doing something wrong? Do I have to delete my savegame/profile to make all v4.0 changes active/work?

Lol. :hopelessness:

[Elmo]

I only hope that this fixes the issue with not being able to select the other DLC cars as well, as the issue wasn't just limited to the Bently. Because after I bought the Old vs New DLC I could select the Bentley again, just not any of the other new DLC cars (both Mustangs, RUF CTR, the other RUF, BMW 2002 turbo as they would resort to one of the other cars the game shipped with).

Yes, this should work now with all DLC cars

[Pink_650S]

Holy s*** another big patch already? You guys are awesome. Driveclub and Forza who? Turning on my PS4 remotely from my phone app so it can update :)

Wanted to again request more US tracks. I know it's unlikely but I'd love to see (and pay for) unique ones like Pike's Peak (so many turns up a mountain is very unique and beautiful) and Circuit of the Americas (US's new F1 track, speaks for itself).

No Tilkedromes please.
More real race tracks (historic ones preferably).

[madmax2069]

Woa another big patch already!? You guys are awesome. Driveclub and Forza who?
Turning on my PS4 remotely from my phone app so it can update :)

Wanted to again request more US tracks. I know it's unlikely but I'd love to see (and pay for) unique ones like Pike's Peak (so many turns up a mountain is very unique and beautiful) and Circuit of the Americas (US's new F1 track, speaks for itself).

Agreed, more American tracks would be so awesome. Mid Ohio, Circuit of the Americas, so on and so forth.


Yes, this should work now with all DLC cars

Hopefully that is the case.

[FS7]

When is this patch going to be available?
The official website says it's available but I just checked on my PS4 and there wasn't any patch to download.

[Elmo]

When is this patch going to be available?
The official website says it's available but I just checked on my PS4 and there wasn't any patch to download.

Maybe it was downloaded already during stand-by. Check if you can see a version number in the bottom left corner of the RACE CENTRAL screen (main menu).

[Grijo]

No Tilkedromes please.
More real race tracks (historic ones preferably).

Amen to that!!! I really miss Sebring...

[madmax2069]

When is this patch going to be available?
The official website says it's available but I just checked on my PS4 and there wasn't any patch to download.

Different regions have different schedules, they're all SONY but they all behave like a different entity/Company.

And SMS cant tell you this as its SONY themselves that determine when a patch gets released to everyones PS4 (the only thing SMS can tell you is when they send the patch to SONY to test). And keeping in mind the above info the patch release will not happen at the same time in each region (aka happen all at once).

[FS7]

Maybe it was downloaded already during stand-by. Check if you can see a version number in the bottom left corner of the RACE CENTRAL screen (main menu).
When I check for update it says the latest update is already installed but when I check the game info it says version 3.0.


Different regions have different schedules, they're all SONY but they all behave like a different entity/Company.

And SMS cant tell you this as its SONY themselves that determine when a patch gets released to everyones PS4 (the only thing SMS can tell you is when they send the patch to SONY to test). And keeping in mind the above info the patch release will not happen at the same time in each region (aka happen all at once).
I guess I'll have to wait then, thanks for the info.

[skells22]

also people keep forgotting we do not want a PSN outage as everyone at same time downloads the patch

[Mascot]

Is there any chance that use the second joystick on the Fanatec F1 rims could be reintroduced for those of us that will never use a separate handbrake device? Maybe put it in as an option in the controller menus? Unilateral removal of such a useful and flexible function is likely to be absolutely terrible news for all PS4 Formula rim users.

Maybe someone from SMS could open a dialogue with Fanatec about it?

[skells22]

there is just one issue, a few days ago i made a mistake of pressing delate on project cars and now back to locked menu screen on ps4 and i want to try out the online inmpovemnts!

[Racinglova]

When should it come to Xbox One? About a month from now like always? :/

[mcbrew]

Don't run over the marshals when they pick the broken pieces up.
Project CARmageddon

[BigAlex]

I played yesterday's night and early today and it seems no 4.0 was installed....I'm in Rio de janeiro.. Maybe I need to wait a little longer...

[Umer Ahmad]

Amen to that!!! I really miss Sebring...

Ian hates Sebring.

Great patch SMS. Great work and continued support.

[wyldanimal]

Cool patch with detail fixes, thanks guys :)
Still hoping for my personal Top 3 issues to be fixed.

- Pitstops
- Landmine
- Glueing Cars

I shall never give up hope.

I 2nd this!

these are the top 3 biggest Game Breakers.

Landmine and Glueing / Magnetic Cars, in my opinion are the Biggest Two Issue the Game Has.

[wyldanimal]

Not necessarily is "overdone = issue" ... in this case imo its not overdone much ... actually out of 30 races i have 1nce a collision which this is a very short problem. Just race clean and fair and search for such a league / group. :D

"Unlikely" means "probably not" :P

Racing Clean, And an In game Issue Have Nothing to do with each other.
The Fact is that if Car to Car contact is made, there is a Game Breaking Issue.
The Cars Glue, or Magnetize together.
Neither car has any control, and both cars run straight off track.
even when the Glue Lets go, your car is still in a state of Little to no control.

Happens many times, mostly if the AI contacts you from behind.. or the side.
what should have been a bump and run, turns into an Off track and many lost positions.

putting blinders on and ignoring that it exists doesn't solve any thing.

Sure, If you never make contact you don't experience it, but that Doesn't mean the Issue doesn't exist.

You're basically saying
If you Fart in the wind, and we don't smell it, then you didn't Fart.

[TrueNOS2]

When will this patch hit for the East Coast of the U.S.?

[C6ckneyGeezer]

Thanks Devs! Keep the patching incoming!

[Bealdor]

Threads merged.

[avijan]

Great work guys... some steps closer to an even more perfect racing sim! I've downloaded the patch and quickly just tested the GUI / HUD changes which I was looking forward to along with ANY updates to the online aspect of the game as I usually either practice for myself testing/tweaking car setups or race online in weekly sheduled races with friends in private and public lobbies.

I 'm a bit dissapointed that the hud only show info like "ON/OFF", "N/A" "I" (Increase) "D" (decrease) Instead of tying the full information like : "ABS Enabled" / ABS Disabled" , "Break Bias+" / "Brake Bias-", Front Anti Roll bar Increase/decrease +/- "Stability Control ON/OFF" etc. you get the picture..I mean whyy not put that extra little text in there while you're at it so races know exactly what values and settings is changing during races.

I have mapped these keys to a little Bluetooth keyboard and used the numeric pad for these mappings - so at least I want that type of info in the HUD.


This was just a quick litte test as I have to wait until tonight before I get to do some more testing. I sure hope all of my racing buddy's have updated as I can see issues for tonights races if not everybody are on the same patch level.

[Bruno Alexandre]

Great work guys... some steps closer to an even more perfect racing sim! I've downloaded the patch and quickly just tested the GUI / HUD changes which I was looking forward to along with ANY updates to the online aspect of the game as I usually either practice for myself testing/tweaking car setups or race online in weekly sheduled races with friends in private and public lobbies.

I 'm a bit dissapointed that the hud only show info like "ON/OFF", "N/A" "I" (Increase) "D" (decrease) Instead of tying the full information like : "ABS Enabled" / ABS Disabled" , "Break Bias+" / "Brake Bias-", Front Anti Roll bar Increase/decrease +/- "Stability Control ON/OFF" etc. you get the picture..I mean whyy not put that extra little text in there while you're at it so races know exactly what values and settings is changing during races.

I have mapped these keys to a little Bluetooth keyboard and used the numeric pad for these mappings - so at least I want that type of info in the HUD.


This was just a quick litte test as I have to wait until tonight before I get to do some more testing. I sure hope all of my racing buddy's have updated as I can see issues for tonights races if not everybody are on the same patch level.


It should be displaying something like "Increase Brake Bias 59/100" but on the PS4 we've just notice it says only "I" and "D", so most of the information is missing. We will fix it, apologies for the error.

We're aware.

[avijan]

that was quick!! ;) And thank you sir!

[husker]

Thanks very much for the patch - downloading as I type.

I look forward to the next one! Any improvements to an already very enjoyable game are welcome.

[FS7]

I played yesterday's night and early today and it seems no 4.0 was installed....I'm in Rio de janeiro.. Maybe I need to wait a little longer...
I'm in Brazil too, I just checked a few minutes ago, no patch yet.

[Umer Ahmad]

Will copy here too-

ALL: this is NOT the thread for "what about XYZ bug/feature?" NOT listed in the notes. You should ONLY be asking/comementing about things THAT ARE IN the notes. We risk missing legitimate questions by these unrelated questions.

There's an entire "feature suggestions" area and "bug report" threads to discuss items NOT IN THE NOTES, please use those.

[GrimGrnninGhost]

Question about force default settings, dose this only impact the tuning settings or will it also force default force feedback settings as well?

Sorry if this has already been mentioned

[avijan]

A question about patch versions..

Last night I was racing/practising with a group of friends as we're having scheduled races each friday night. All of us were at the time at patch level 3.0 except one guy who could not join our lobby. He apparantly updated to 4.0 late last night but was not able to join our or other 3.0 lobby's after that. So are there any issues atm. with players on different patch levels (3.0 and 4.0) ?

[Pink_650S]

Question about force default settings, dose this only impact the tuning settings or will it also force default force feedback settings as well?

Its not working at all.


A question about patch versions..

Last night I was racing/practising with a group of friends as we're having scheduled races each friday night. All of us were at the time at patch level 3.0 except one guy who could not join our lobby. He apparantly updated to 4.0 late last night but was not able to join our or other 3.0 lobby's after that. So are there any issues atm. with players on different patch levels (3.0 and 4.0) ?

Yes, as far as l know North and South America are always the last to receive the patches.
So, until they got the patch, European and American players wont be able to play together.

[Siberian Tiger]

Sure, it would be not good if different patch levels would be able to join each other....

[Jescott71]

• Improved Contract system to allow for extra entry level contract awards when progressing to a new motorsport, or when only being offered a renewal for the current motorsport.

Could anyone elaborate on this? Does this mean we will get more contracts from the next series (e.g if you won the GT3 Championship [tier 3], you would get more offers in the Endurance Championship [tier 2])

And thanks for the continued hard work guys!

[ImStylinOnYaBro]

still no fix for community ambassador after countless posts on various forums for all consoles and a tweet notifying it was brought to your attention. well done, really.

[gubasx]

1- I still don't believe that once again you guys didn't even care or tried to fix the framerate issues on tracks like Monaco.
What a hell is wrong with you guys ? Don't you want to make your costumers happy ?
2 - Even after patch 4.0, We still have to go and manually change the settings under advanced settings in the control settings menu, so that the gamepad settings ( advanced ons and offs ) are the ones that we want and a have chosen every single time we have played the game.
Not a single time does the game keeps those settings after we once again start the game.
3 - Fixing the collisions with the ford escort may disguise the problem ..but isn't the real issue ( the one that really needs fixing) the physics involved in those collisions ?
4 - I'd really like to get an option to edit and independently increase the various sounds of the tyres in the overall sound mix.
5 - The dualshock ffb isn't great at comunicating what is happening between the tyres and the road .. Improving that and resolving the frame rate issues, would be the greatest patch of all times.
6 - please start listening to your costumers dreams :) we really want to like your game. please help us in that.

[Pink_650S]

5 - The dualshock ffb isn't great at comunicating what is happening between the tyres and the road .

Its really good, l can actually tell whats going on between the tires and the road. l think thats the best it can be.
And Its a freaking controller after all, what are you expecting? :D

[Siberian Tiger]

1- I still don't believe that once again you guys didn't even care or tried to fix the framerate issues on tracks like Monaco.
What a hell is wrong with you guys ? Don't you want to make your costumers happy ?


What the Hell do you expect? Monaco is and will be a very heavy Track for GPU's so many detailed Houses and Stuff in Front that needs to be rendered. If the would "just" lower the Details, i can allready here all the "Why the Hell have you make Monaco worse" etc. They will continues optimizing for sure, but such a Post isn't really necessary... To be honest, after that Sentence i didn't read the rest of your Post.

[Mahjik]

Will copy here too-

ALL: this is NOT the thread for "what about XYZ bug/feature?" NOT listed in the notes. You should ONLY be asking/comementing about things THAT ARE IN the notes. We risk missing legitimate questions by these unrelated questions.

There's an entire "feature suggestions" area and "bug report" threads to discuss items NOT IN THE NOTES, please use those.

..........

[Linx]

I know it wasn't announced in this update but I just wanna make sure if this was in patch 3.0 or maybe a work around I missed. But is there any way to have telemetry in the replays to see what the car is doing?

[Sproket]

Cheers for under the radar patch.
I don't know if this has been mentioned but when I change anti sway bars on the fly, the rear says d for increase?

[MAARTEN]

A truly amazing racing sim gets even better with patch 4.0! I really appreciate the new HUD indicators when turning ABS, TC and ESP on and off. Hats off for SMS :D

[chig88]

A truly amazing racing sim gets even better with patch 4.0! I really appreciate the new HUD indicators when turning ABS, TC and ESP on and off. Hats off for SMS :D

Yeah great, apart from the fact that for some unknown reason the TC, ABS & SC icons have now been removed from the HUD dash & replaced with a random 'T N' message.

Has made it worse, not better. Have done 50 minutes of a multiplayer practice session & have had no idea whether the assist have been on or off half the time :mad:.

[MAARTEN]

Yeah great, apart from the fact that for some unknown reason the TC, ABS & SC icons have now been removed from the HUD dash & replaced with a random 'T N' message.

Has made it worse, not better. Have done 50 minutes of a multiplayer practice session & have had no idea whether the assist have been on or off half the time :mad:.

Where are these missing? They are still present in the meter when outside the car. It would be really nice though to have them visible on/off state all the time in cockpit-mode.

[chig88]

Where are these missing? They are still present in the meter when outside the car. It would be really nice though to have them visible on/off state all the time in cockpit-mode.

News to me - I've been driving the Ginetta GT4 & they're not visible at all on the HUD dash in bonnet cam.

[MAARTEN]

218447

There you have them

[Grijo]

Ian hates Sebring.

Great patch SMS. Great work and continued support.
218448

[Gravit8]

I know it wasn't announced in this update but I just wanna make sure if this was in patch 3.0 or maybe a work around I missed. But is there any way to have telemetry in the replays to see what the car is doing?

Nope. There's a separate thread about second screen telemetry for ps4. It's in the waiting for Sony stage right now. (Allegedly). Don't think we're getting it in replay. Not sure why. They are negotiating, second screen support. But that went stale a while ago and no ones heard much in a while.

[chig88]

218447

There you have them

Yes, but as I said - they are not there on the Ginetta GT4

[TrueNOS2]

Still no update available in East Coast U.S. 4:15 EST :(

[TrueNOS2]

Ian hates Sebring.

Great patch SMS. Great work and continued support.

Sebring is one of the all time great tracks in the U.S. c'mon!

[FS7]

Still no update available in East Coast U.S. 4:15 EST :(
PSN is having issues, I checked a few minutes ago and wasn't able to sign in.

https://status.playstation.com/en-us/

[chig88]

Yes, but as I said - they are not there on the Ginetta GT4

Have checked on Bathurst and they are there. So is this specific to a particular track?

Ginetta GT4 @ Barcelona National

[morpwr]

PSN is having issues, I checked a few minutes ago and wasn't able to sign in.

https://status.playstation.com/en-us/


Probabaly from everyone trying to download the update at the same time.lol

[TrueNOS2]

PSN is having issues, I checked a few minutes ago and wasn't able to sign in.

https://status.playstation.com/en-us/

Yeah, I experienced that too. I am on now however and still no patch.

[Umer Ahmad]

Sebring is one of the all time great tracks in the U.S. c'mon!

If i owned the company we would first have all the WEC & IMSA tracks.

[chig88]

Have checked on Bathurst and they are there. So is this specific to a particular track?

Ginetta GT4 @ Barcelona National

Actually, scratch that - I'm an idiot.

Didn't realise the lobby was set to real assists!

[Bounkass]

Fixed a bug where the invitational events that require winning team championships weren't always unlocking.

I have installed the patch and loaded up the game but these invitations are still locked. Previous patch automatically unlocked certain bugged invitations, I'm assuming they're still bugged for me?

[Sunday Racers]

I 2nd this!

these are the top 3 biggest Game Breakers.

Landmine and Glueing / Magnetic Cars, in my opinion are the Biggest Two Issue the Game Has.

When people mention the glue bug, I usually show them this http://youtu.be/Qf-Ifjht_YU

That said, collisions do need a bit of tweaking.

[gubasx]

What the Hell do you expect? Monaco is and will be a very heavy Track for GPU's so many detailed Houses and Stuff in Front that needs to be rendered. If the would "just" lower the Details, i can allready here all the "Why the Hell have you make Monaco worse" etc. They will continues optimizing for sure, but such a Post isn't really necessary... To be honest, after that Sentence i didn't read the rest of your Post.

The game was advertised as being a 60 fps simulator, even on PS4.
That was the main reason why me and a lot of players bought the game.
We all, of course can indulge some fluctuations on that, and we do already ..on some of the other tracks available, but not when what you are presented with, is a track like Monaco, that does not even remotely lives up to that 60 fps promise that was given and advertised to all of us before the release of the game.
Unlike you, I don't care that much about the detailed environments ..I just want my game to be as close as possible to a rock solid 60 fps frame-rate fluid experience.
I know that, like me, many others do to.
I can see that you have other priorities and that is totally fine by me .. What I fail to see is why you feel the need to believe that your approach is the only one acceptable or recommendable.
Plus ..They don't have to cut down the overall detail for everyone .. They may just either optimize the track or they may introduce new available options to the visuals menu that would allow us to do that.
I really don't wanna have to be forced to compare one game with another or anything like that. I really don't have to do that. I believe that we are all grown ups and we all know what is or is not possible to be done.

[redrick]

Still no update available in East Coast U.S. 4:15 EST :(
Or west coast 2:15 pm PT.

[J4M35_R]

Thank you for making time progression stay at real if it has been selected, it was a pain changing it from off after each race or setting change.

Are the yellow flags in solo mode ever going to be looked at, I've tried for about an hour causing pile ups and blocking at the start of races and not had one.

[mjemec11]

I have installed the patch and loaded up the game but these invitations are still locked. Previous patch automatically unlocked certain bugged invitations, I'm assuming they're still bugged for me?

You need to win 2 and 4 team championships after the patch, previous wins don't count, sadly. The quickest way I found is Formula Rookie and it's fun, too.

[TrueNOS2]

Anyone seen the patch yet in the U.S.? I sure hope they don't hit us up too late cutting into racing time. It is @5:45 EST.

[Synner40]

Anyone seen the patch yet in the U.S.? I sure hope they don't hit us up too late cutting into racing time. It is @5:45 EST.

nope not yet. sorta annoyed

[wyldanimal]

I 2nd this!

these are the top 3 biggest Game Breakers.

Landmine and Glueing / Magnetic Cars, in my opinion are the Biggest Two Issue the Game Has.


When people mention the glue bug, I usually show them this http://youtu.be/Qf-Ifjht_YU

That said, collisions do need a bit of tweaking.

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Not really the same thing at all.. sorry.
I've raced.
I've done my share of rubbing..

The video example, the lead car got tapped and spun so that it was slighty sideways.
yes in a case like that where the lead cars tires are now scrubbing, they've lost all grip..
if the car in back can't slow with braking, as it looks like both were fully committed to the turn,
then that will be the results..
I doubt that this sort of thing happens in every race, every time two cars bump.


pCars has too much entanglement to the point of being unrealistic.
sure it can and does happen. but not as much as it does in the game.

a side by side rub, and you get stuck together..
a little tap in the back and you get glued together.

it needs an adjustment...

[Bounkass]

You need to win 2 and 4 team championships after the patch, previous wins don't count, sadly. The quickest way I found is Formula Rookie and it's fun, too.

Weird. In the last major patch I was missing something like that too but I automatically got the invitations. Thanks though.

[GenBrien]

8:20PM EST.... still no patch :(

[pioneer1985]

The game was advertised as being a 60 fps simulator, even on PS4.
That was the main reason why me and a lot of players bought the game.
We all, of course can indulge some fluctuations on that, and we do already ..on some of the other tracks available, but not when what you are presented with, is a track like Monaco, that does not even remotely lives up to that 60 fps promise that was given and advertised to all of us before the release of the game.
Unlike you, I don't care that much about the detailed environments ..I just want my game to be as close as possible to a rock solid 60 fps frame-rate fluid experience.
I know that, like me, many other do to.
I can see that you have other priorities and that is totally fine by me .. What I fail to see is why you feel the need to believe that your approach is the only one acceptable or recommendable.
Plus ..They don't have to cut down the overall detail for everyone .. They may just either optimize the track or they may introduce new available options to the visuals menu that would allow us to do that.
I really don't wanna have to be forced to compare one game with another or anything like that. I really don't have to do that. I believe that we are all grown ups and we all know what is or is not possible to be done.

I had been staying well clear of racing Monaco in this game as I heard of the screen tear being bad but played it for the first time tonight in an online race with just 8 people and the tearing was beyond annoying and just ruins the experience for me. I would say other tracks are just about tolerable for the most part as long as you don't use weather. I hope they can optimize the game more at 1080p but maybe 900p could be made an option if that would improve performance significantly.Replays are also ruined by the tearing on some tracks. Maybe a full v sync implementation for replays specifically could be done.

[CoTiNhO]

Someone could tell us how it works the "default setup"?????

[nhraracer]

8:20PM EST.... still no patch :(

9:24 est still no patch.

[Synner40]

9:24 est still no patch.

10:09 est and nothing

[samspadeaus]

This.

[samspadeaus]

Hope for next patch:
Mid-session save. That means that you can pause game, save it and continue later. This is helpful for endurance race.

This!

[Racer Pro]

its 23h38 est and no patch wtf

[gotdirt410sprintcar]

its all made up lol and everyone is in on it

[MAARTEN]

Actually, scratch that - I'm an idiot.

Didn't realise the lobby was set to real assists!

Ok, no problem :)

[Racer Pro]

i think the ps4 patch 4.0 out on septembre 22 in the usa and canada store

[mjemec11]

Weird. In the last major patch I was missing something like that too but I automatically got the invitations. Thanks though.

No problem. It was mentioned in the bug specific thread.

[Pink_650S]

When people mention the glue bug, I usually show them this http://youtu.be/Qf-Ifjht_YU

That said, collisions do need a bit of tweaking.

This video has nothing to do with the in-game issue.
The car contact in Project Cars makes no physical sense, unless the cars' chassis are made of magnets :p

[alegunner68]

Pre patch 4 i only had a couple of crashes, happened three times yesterday and the last time it wiped all my data, all car set ups, ffb settings, everything. This happened while i was inputting Jack Spades settings, got all the way down to the Ruf gt3 when it happened.
Bit miffed tbh.

[Chevi]

Same question as on page 13. What does that mean?

Improved Contract system to allow for extra entry level contract awards when progressing to a new motorsport, or when only being offered a renewal for the current motorsport.

[MikieBoy147]

Still new to this game and downloaded patch 4 yesterday. Over 14hrs into my 24h Lemans I get the invisible wall when coming out of the pits which flips me over and disqualifies me. Any enjoyment I had from playing this game has completely gone.

[Photonmonkey]

The game was advertised as being a 60 fps simulator, even on PS4.
That was the main reason why me and a lot of players bought the game.
We all, of course can indulge some fluctuations on that, and we do already ..on some of the other tracks available, but not when what you are presented with, is a track like Monaco, that does not even remotely lives up to that 60 fps promise that was given and advertised to all of us before the release of the game.
Unlike you, I don't care that much about the detailed environments ..I just want my game to be as close as possible to a rock solid 60 fps frame-rate fluid experience.
I know that, like me, many other do to.
I can see that you have other priorities and that is totally fine by me .. What I fail to see is why you feel the need to believe that your approach is the only one acceptable or recommendable.
Plus ..They don't have to cut down the overall detail for everyone .. They may just either optimize the track or they may introduce new available options to the visuals menu that would allow us to do that.
I really don't wanna have to be forced to compare one game with another or anything like that. I really don't have to do that. I believe that we are all grown ups and we all know what is or is not possible to be done.

Do you really think SMS would want people seeing there game running at a rock solid 60fps whilst looking awful?

In all honesty I can stand the frame drops, this is a full blown sim running on a console. The tyre physics alone eat 2 cores if I am not mistaken that's the price you pay for top notch physics in a game. People are so hung up about this 60fps in consoles, that's what has always held Forza back from progressing because Microsoft won't budge hence why you have Forza 6 with no dynamic time of day or weather, I am sure that will get stale pretty soon.

Whilst I agree in principle they could add sliders for graphical fidelity and resolution, would they really go down that road. If you have ever played any sims on PC you always have a trade off between eye candy/physics and frame rate, I am just glad that we have a true sim on console at all and will be quite happy for SMS to just keep optimising where they can.

[Fre.Mo]

Still new to this game and downloaded patch 4 yesterday. Over 14hrs into my 24h Lemans I get the invisible wall when coming out of the pits which flips me over and disqualifies me. Any enjoyment I had from playing this game has completely gone.

Why collision is not off inside the pit line? It could easily fix this bug...

[the-D-]

I hope Sony in the U.S. is testing to be certain the crash bug to blue screen has been resolved before releasing the patch. This issue was not listed in the patch notes.

I had 3 blue screen crashes in 1 hour, hadn't been on in 5 days due to working night shifts, first 1 during the first race after the patch :-/

[Mascot]

I think I've had a couple of bugs since 4.0 on PS4. After installing the patch I joined a private lobby and the racing line was activated by default (not by the host - on my console). I had to leave the lobby to turn it off in the options, but when I rejoined the session I had very little (if any) engine noise in all views except chase cam (which seemed normal). It was kind of like driving an electric car. All I seemed to be able to hear was road noise, tyre squeal and the exhaust.

[Fong74]

Someone could tell us how it works the "default setup"?????

It doesnt seem to work atm. The option is there but has no effect afaiks. I think SMS is aware of that as several ppl reported it here.

[altid6]

Hi SMS, this is not a post because I want to complain, this is help by telling you about some bugs that I encounter and some bugs that you might not be aware of.

This is such a great game, so I only wants to help, so it can become even better.
I mainly makes endurance races in solo mode, so this is also, where I have found some bugs. Some small, but also some that is really frustrating and game breaking.

These bugs have been in the game from the beginning.
I have upgrade to version 4.0 but they are still there.
I use PC and the setup is 250 laps of Spa, GT3 class, 35 opponents, no aids and in this case just clear weather.

In addition, here is the first bug. The weather is clear, the forecast is clear and still all of my opponents uses GT3 rain tires!
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A small not game breaking bug, but still annoying is that I do not use HUD, but only the information from the dashboard in the GT3 car. For better visuals, I always turns the light on, so I better can see the information. However, every time I enters the pit, the light is switched off and I have to turn it on, when I leave the pits.

When I switch to my AI driver all tire and brake telemetry stops working, both on the dash and in the PCdash app. Therefore, I cannot monitor temperature or tire wear.


Now to the frustrating and for me game breaking bug. The end of an endurance race.
When the leader of a race crosses the finish line, race just stops. Why is it not possible to finish the lap that you are on? The same goes for qualifying. Let us finish the lap.

The most annoying part is that when the leader has won the race, you a presented with the result screen, but in the background the AI driver has taken over the car and still drives in racing speed, even overtaking opponents and moving up on the leaderboard. How come that the AI driver is a loud to finish the race and not yourself!

Finally, the race result. Look at this picture and see if you can notice something very wrong.
Look at the laps for each driver and then on the place they finish the race. That is just so wrong. How can a car witch has done 250 laps get in lower on the leaderboard than a car witch has done 248 laps.
That is because the game just classifies in the order the cars crosses the finish line and not calculates for cars witch is lapped. That is not good and needs some attention. There is even a car with 250 laps ending up as number 26, behind cars he has lapped 4 times.
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This just destroys proper endurance racing.

Moreover, for the even better endurance racing experience we would like to have timed races, proper multi class and hopefully custom championships.

You have the Le Mans license, please lets us experience the true endurance spirit :o).
Thank you for a great game.

[FLX81]

---------^ YES

shared video:
Not really the same thing at all.. sorry.
I've raced.
I've done my share of rubbing..

The video example, the lead car got tapped and spun so that it was slighty sideways.
yes in a case like that where the lead cars tires are now scrubbing, they've lost all grip..
if the car in back can't slow with braking, as it looks like both were fully committed to the turn,
then that will be the results..
I doubt that this sort of thing happens in every race, every time two cars bump.

pCars has too much entanglement to the point of being unrealistic.
sure it can and does happen. but not as much as it does in the game.

a side by side rub, and you get stuck together..
a little tap in the back and you get glued together.

it needs an adjustment...

You forgot one word: Desperately.

I ve had a number of GT3 races in a public lobby last night. In theory, it was the best public lobby I had ever participated in: It was always full, the first 5-7 guys were regularily within 1 second after qualifying and the racing was 99% fair. Yes, I know, people in public lobbies giving each other space to survive, amazing aint it?!

Unfortunately, despite racing carefully and watching out for each other, due to being so similarily fast and therefor being close to each other so often, there wasnt a single race that wasnt ruined by those horrible sticky collisions. Not one. At Spa, I had an epic fight with a guy in an R8 LMS and another one in a Ruf GT3, we were within a second for over one lap. Then the Ruf tried to overtake the Audi at Bus Stop, both were side by side, very lightly touched and they were dragged straight on with the poor guy in the Audi on the inside probably screaming in frustration. Well, good for me, I was right behind them, slipped through and got away as they both served a 5 second penalty for track cutting to boot (I assume, since they came back on track so slow and you often get a 5 second penalty when being magnet dragged outside the track, to add insult to injury). The R8 driver quit the session and probably threw his PS4 out the window. I screwed up later the next lap, so I had the Ruf on my rear end again. He dived on the inside of me at Pouhon, I left him as much space as I could but we lightly touched being side by side, as if our cars would have high fived. Now, I would have understood if that would have sent me wide.

What happened instead was that from a light side-to-side touch, our cars stuck together like magnets and plowed straight on into the barriers. The barriers at Pouhon are far away from the track, the runoff area is asphalt and I bet we both braked hard and steered left, I know I did. Neither braking nor turning had any noticeable effect. It was the last lap, I finished with a bent steering and that was the last race I did that night.

I dont care how much work it is to solve those goddamn sticky collisions. Except for the crashes to XMB, I cant think of any other thing that could possibly have higher priority. If you dont fix them, you can just straight up stop developing the oval DLC content because it will be pointless. Rubbing is racing. If we cant rub, we cant race. End of story.

PS: To add further insult to even more injury, the 3rd place at Spa was my 51st online podium finish. No pentapodia trophy unlocked. :mad:

[chig88]

I think I've had a couple of bugs since 4.0 on PS4. After installing the patch I joined a private lobby and the racing line was activated by default (not by the host - on my console). I had to leave the lobby to turn it off in the options, but when I rejoined the session I had very little (if any) engine noise in all views except chase cam (which seemed normal). It was kind of like driving an electric car. All I seemed to be able to hear was road noise, tyre squeal and the exhaust.

Same here. I think because they've added the option to have the racing line on only in the corners it seems to have defaulted to the on position after you've installed the patch.

I also had to quit the lobby to turn it off, but once I did it stayed off so hopefully it's just a one time thing.

[Pink_650S]

lf you dont fix them, you can just straight up stop developing the oval DLC content because it will be pointless. Rubbing is racing. If we cant rub, we cat race. End of story.

Thats actually a very valid point.
I can already imagine the chaos and frustration. :(

[Mr.Smoke]

Well, its 8:30 am EST and still no patch. Guess us North America folks have to wait until Monday?? Kind of a bummer if you ask me.

Seems the two biggest issues are left unresolved by 4.0 which is unfortunate. Seeing reports of invisible walls/landmines as well as crashes to the dashboard.

[wOoDsTeR16]

Well, its 8:30 am EST and still no patch. Guess us North America folks have to wait until Monday?? Kind of a bummer if you ask me.

Try waiting another few weeks, now thats a bummer

[Pink_650S]

Well, its 8:30 am EST and still no patch. Guess us North America folks have to wait until Monday?? Kind of a bummer if you ask me.

Seems the two biggest issues are left unresolved by 4.0 which is unfortunate. Seeing reports of invisible walls/landmines as well as crashes to the dashboard.

Then why are you so eager to get the patch? :p

[Mr.Smoke]

Try waiting another few weeks, now thats a bummer

At least the entire population on the XB1 is on the same patch though. Currently the PS4 userbase is split with 3.0 and 4.0 which means far less lobbies to pick from.


Then why are you so eager to get the patch? :p

Why must you question my motives? Not sure why it concerns you, but there are some nice improvements added which im looking forward to. Coupled with the fact that the userbase is split until the patch finishes rolling out.

[madmax2069]

Well, its 8:30 am EST and still no patch. Guess us North America folks have to wait until Monday?? Kind of a bummer if you ask me.


Thats SCEA for you, always dragging their butts.

SCEA and SCEE are both SONY but act like completely different companies, they have totally different approval processes, different store layouts and so on.

Take War thunder as example, SCEE approved the game and it launched in November 28-29 2013, while SCEA wouldn't allow the game to launch because the game didn't have PSN friend list integration and eventually was allowed to launch months later (2Q of 2014) after Gaijin added PSN friend list integration.

then the whole patch approval process, SCEE always seems to launch patches first then SCEA eventually launches the patch. I always hated staggered launches. Being that patches are distributed by digital means they should launch the patches simultaneously (as well as games thats disturbed digitally).

[Mr.Smoke]

Agreed 100% on that. The staggered roll out of patches makes no sense to me at all.

[rocafella1978]

...and that's how you get rid of yur fanbase slowly but surely! (what I have been saying since patch 2.0!) if support mechanism, problem/ bug collection and data collection was cleaner and more stream lined, even in the forum, patches would be more focused on majority of complaints and bugs reported...you could create custom polls and etc. to figure that out, or simply allow or add forum functions, where threads and posts have to be categorized/ with colors or other form of visual and app help. so many threads/ posts just simply get lost or forgotten about, valid issues, bugs and problems, or simply not paid attention to. if all was categorized or more detailed, you could keep it simplier in figuring out what is posted mostly, what category is created mostly and so on...stats stats stats. (of course not all would be applicable, because some people just post without searching...but that's the forum, staff, team, tech and whatever support's job to clean and if neccessary categorize and push to devs and or other) that's where studio has missed the mark IMHO. also should have maybe focused on 1-2 platforms first, rather than 3-4 platforms, we all know why Nintento got dropped and in the fashion it was dropped...but at least less platforms would have given the studio, a better chance to get the game going without bugs and glitches and issues. all the above IMO. (and yes, i have tried FM6 and F1 2015...all buggy and crappy to be honest and no game is without issues, BUT the PC version of pCARS is lightyears better than PS4 and XB1! and least in my opinion!)

patch release, yes, indeed, blame Sony. (not blaming the studio!!)

[Roger Prynne]

News to me - I've been driving the Ginetta GT4 & they're not visible at all on the HUD dash in bonnet cam.

I didn't think that the Ginetta GT4 used assists.

[madmax2069]

I have to start wondering if SCEA found a issue with the patch that SCEE failed to find and aren't releasing it. Or SCEA is just dragging behind like usual.

[Jakob]

Looks awesome!!!

I gotta say though, was really hoping for a kick/ban option in the online lobbies, the option to turn off the racing line when hosting a lobby and cars sticking together definitely hurts the game.

[stangnutlx]

my game says 4.0

[Pink_650S]

Why must you question my motives? Not sure why it concerns you, but there are some nice improvements added which im looking forward to. Coupled with the fact that the userbase is split until the patch finishes rolling out.

Why must you reply in such a hostile way?
It was a simple question, something that can happen in a forum.

[wyldanimal]

I didn't think that the Ginetta GT4 used assists.

on PS4 it all depends on if Assists are Real, or ALL.
I think when set to ALL, every car can use them.

So maybe it's set to REAL and that's why they are not Showing up?

[Photonmonkey]

Don't know if it's just a placebo affect but do the PS4 colours looks little more realistic now after the Gamma correction, I have switched on post processing and at night don't seem to be getting as much cloud banding as I used to. The true test will be later this evening when I play in a dark room. Prior to 4.0 night time racing with cloud cover meant glowing banded cell shaded clouds. Fingers crossed.

The shadows on some cars seem improved as well in replays, I used to hate watching replays of cars with higher ground clearance as the shadows were either non existent in places or just not very good, the escort springs to mind. I am being picky though.

[GenBrien]

I havent really touched the game since 3.0
Guess I wont touch it more with 4.0 (when N.A. will finally get it)

Call me back when all the basic fonction of a racing Sim will work flawlessly. (guess it'll be around patch 7.0)

[Mr.Smoke]

Why must you reply in such a hostile way?
It was a simple question, something that can happen in a forum.

That was nowhere near hostile. My apologies you took it that way.

[rocafella1978]

I havent really touched the game since 3.0
Guess I wont touch it more with 4.0 (when N.A. will finally get it)

Call me back when all the basic fonction of a racing Sim will work flawlessly. (guess it'll be around patch 7.0)

excactement le point! disappointing to see such great game with such great potential falling apart and fan-base/ fan base walking away.

[Sunday Racers]

If I new how to do it, I'd start a pole with the most common bugs, so that people could vote for which issues they think are a priority to fix.

Unless there already is one, or this is just a dumb idea for some reason that I'm not aware of.

[Mahjik]

If I new how to do it, I'd start a pole with the most common bugs, so that people could vote for which issues they think are a priority to fix.

Unless there already is one, or this is just a dumb idea for some reason that I'm not aware of.

You cannot create a poll. However, that doesn't mean you cannot start a thread and track how many PS4 users want certain issues addressed. Someone is doing something similar in the Feature Suggestion area:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?35783-Your-top-3-suggestions-rankings-in-OP

They just keep updating the original post with "vote counts".

[TheIronWolf]

SMS - just wow! Thanks for removal of debris from the track.

[Goresh]

Am I to understand we have a new patch but the game freeze/crash still exists? I guess its time to forget this title and move on. I've not played since 3.0 because of this crash issue and to be honest doubt I'll bother playing it again. What is the point of fixing some things but ignore the fatal errors?

[Mr.Smoke]

Am I to understand we have a new patch but the game freeze/crash still exists? I guess its time to forget this title and move on. I've not played since 3.0 because of this crash issue and to be honest doubt I'll bother playing it again. What is the point of fixing some things but ignore the fatal errors?

They need to be able to pinpoint exactly what is causing the issue(s) before they can attempt to correct it. With the randomness of the crashes & invisible objects, my guess is they are having troubles pinpointing the cause.

Luckily for me, i havent been suffering from issues like some others. Maybe 2 dashboard crashes since 3.0 patch.

[Zalex]

When does it come out in North America on PS4 ?
Why do we always have to wait a few days or a week before been able to get it in N.A. ?
Just like the Community Events, so bas that it been started days before game came out in N.A. !
So unfair for us and all people of America and probably same for Asia.

Closing events before everyones had time to complete it is insane...
Should ahve been modified right away so everyones can run it for a week.
We started season with an handicap of a few events.

[Siberian Tiger]

When does it come out in North America on PS4 ?
Why do we always have to wait a few days or a week before been able to get it in N.A. ?
Just like the Community Events, so bas that it been started days before game came out in N.A. !
So unfair for us and all people of America and probably same for Asia.

Closing events before everyones had time to complete it is insane...
Should ahve been modified right away so everyones can run it for a week.
We started season with an handicap of a few events.

Say thank you to SCEA.... It's not SMS that are Sceduling those things...

[Mr.Smoke]

If SMS can not pin point a game crashing bug that causes users to remove the game from their library then why release a 4.0? It has been known by SMS immediately after 3.0 release on both consoles and nothing is acknowledged, just total shut down. Gamestop offers $16.50 trade-in for Pcars in the U.S. and if I get just one crash after 4.0 I will accept the 72% loss but gain 100% in peace of mind. Assetto Corsa can’t come soon enough on PS4. Please do not interpret this reply to you personally, I'm just disgusted at the moment. Sorry.

Dont worry, i dont take things such as that personally. I can understand frustrations like yours for sure. If i was plagued with constant issues, i would have the same kind of view as yourself.

They do need to keep making improvements to the game though regardless of weather they can pinpoint or fix these crashing & invisible object problems. If everything was halted until then, ever more people would be pissed due to complete lack of support, fixes & additional content. Im sure these issues are high on the priority list of SMS.

Im looking forward to AC as well, but for all we know, it could wind up being completely riddled with bugs & totally unplayable for quite some time. Hopefully not though.

[Goresh]

The game suffered fatal errors till patch 2.0. It was such a relief to see this fixed. Patch 3.0 drops and the error returns. Now patch 4.0 drops and the error still exists. My frustration stems from actually enjoying the game but not being able to play. Starting to think my choice of buying a console version was a huge mistake.

[BigAlex]

When does it come out in North America on PS4 ?
Why do we always have to wait a few days or a week before been able to get it in N.A. ?
Just like the Community Events, so bas that it been started days before game came out in N.A. !
So unfair for us and all people of America and probably same for Asia.

Closing events before everyones had time to complete it is insane...
Should ahve been modified right away so everyones can run it for a week.
We started season with an handicap of a few events.

Same thing here @ Rio de Janeiro. No 4.0 up to now...

[Mr.Smoke]

The game suffered fatal errors till patch 2.0. It was such a relief to see this fixed. Patch 3.0 drops and the error returns. Now patch 4.0 drops and the error still exists. My frustration stems from actually enjoying the game but not being able to play. Starting to think my choice of buying a console version was a huge mistake.

I enjoy the game immensely as well, which is why i take the good with the bad. There is nothing else available on console which can satisfy my craving for a great racing experience.

[rocafella1978]

@Jay_B: I truly don't think they have blocked your IP, it is just a huge cooperation...you have to understand, the bigger the company gets the less response you will get as a consumer, their wheels of processes/ procedures and help become huge, and we as consumers suffer. that's just a fact. as much as they help, the expedited help gets last in line with large/ huge enterprises, best you can do is post your bugs/ problems and issues related to pCARS right here on this forum and just wait it out and see how staff, or WMD mods or other community members add to it, post, or else. just a thought, so you don't ruin your game experience with pCARS getting frustrated.

[gubasx]

Do you really think SMS would want people seeing there game running at a rock solid 60fps whilst looking awful?

In all honesty I can stand the frame drops, this is a full blown sim running on a console. The tyre physics alone eat 2 cores if I am not mistaken that's the price you pay for top notch physics in a game. People are so hung up about this 60fps in consoles, that's what has always held Forza back from progressing because Microsoft won't budge hence why you have Forza 6 with no dynamic time of day or weather, I am sure that will get stale pretty soon.

Whilst I agree in principle they could add sliders for graphical fidelity and resolution, would they really go down that road. If you have ever played any sims on PC you always have a trade off between eye candy/physics and frame rate, I am just glad that we have a true sim on console at all and will be quite happy for SMS to just keep optimising where they can.

Look men, I was clear about not wanting to compare or talk about other similar games on the market.
But you see .. talking about Eye candy in games and their relation with them being 30 or 60 fps titles is very subjective.
In my life I have played a lot of 60 fps games that look a lot better than a lot of 30 fps games. It all comes down a lot more to the 3D engine behind all the game and to choices the programmers do when creating the game than to whether the game runs at 60 or 30 fps.
Sure, the same game could always look better at a 30 fps lock, rather than at an unlocked and variable 60 fps. But when you do master the fine art of making and tuning games .. you can almost all of the time be certain that the game you produce will most likely run at a 60 fps lock.
Would you trade the frame rate in project cars for a slower framerate, doubled input lag and prettier scenarios ?
Not me, I wouldn't .. not ever.
The best fun I've ever had in my sim racer time, was had while using a modest laptop with a really really modest graphic card, playing some mods of some older games like formula armaroli ( a reiza studios mod to rfactor 1) and some mods of richard burns rally. All those mods looked great, and the community made some great tracks for those games, some of them even laser scanned) .. and while running on directx 8.1, that was never an obstacle in the way of very very good fun and very decent visuals, when the right choices of design and graphics detail were made.
All those mods and games required some work and modding but after a lot of configurations I managed to make those games run at a solid 60 fps on my archaic laptop.
So don't tell me we have an hardware limitation in ps4. What we have are choices and politics.

[MOLLIES]

i have some problem with the feedback for my TX300RS, i star the playstation the feedback is slow i restart the playstation the feedback is strong! but no change my setup.
it s a bug,

[Umer Ahmad]

Real quick, this:

"Whilst I agree in principle they could add sliders for graphical fidelity and resolution"

is not an option on consoles. Resolution and other graphics parameters (AA, AF) are strictly controlled by 1st-party.

Very rare that console users would ever be able to adjust these.

[ChrisK]

With all the remaining issues and potential gameplay improvements left in the game, I'm not sure why people still regard these graphical things as a priority. The game looks absolutely stunning. That's not the issue with PCars. are you people actually racing this game or just watching it like a movie ?

[GenBrien]

With all the remaining issues and potential gameplay improvements left in the game, I'm not sure why people still regard these graphical things as a priority. The game looks absolutely stunning. That's not the issue with PCars. are you people actually racing this game or just watching it like a movie ?

the guy doing the graphics is not the same fixing bugs/ doing physics / etc

it's not because there is new graphical things, that it slowed down the bug fixing.

but there is a lot of bugs that needs to be fix ASAP

[OBigO]

Any reason to stop time trial mode starting with optimal brake temperatures?

[Sasquatch]

With all the remaining issues and potential gameplay improvements left in the game, I'm not sure why people still regard these graphical things as a priority. The game looks absolutely stunning. That's not the issue with PCars. are you people actually racing this game or just watching it like a movie ?
Maybe the graphical things dig themselves to fixing something else.

But really, PS4 4.0 hasn't gone live in the US. Been 3.0 all day.

[J.P.Montoya]

Please SMS, fix the Deadzone on PS4 Motion controls. This issue do not exist on Driveclub. Even when Deadzone is set to 0, the huge Deadzone is always there

[Skrillex]

Maybe the graphical things dig themselves to fixing something else.

But really, PS4 4.0 hasn't gone live in the US. Been 3.0 all day.

OK it's not just me. I'm sitting here looking all over for the 4.0 update and nothing. Still running 3.0. I thought I missed something

[FS7]

4.0 update still isn't available in Brazil.

[BigAlex]

Yep... Still waiting! I think there should be a clear distribution schedule for a new release.

[andycass]

It really has been minimized. Not totally extincted, but minimized to a level I can live with. Been in a public lobby with lots of ppl joining/quitting. I could drive almost without noticing the lag. Very pleased with the improvement! Thanks SMS!
As far has i can tell there's no change

[Tomcul]

Track map on load screen is a welcome addition..
Great work SMS bring on the dlc...

[MLT24]

Patch out in usa yet?

[madmax2069]

Patch out in usa yet?

No,

It probably wont be out till Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

[KlubbinJay]

Devs, when will you implement endurance-times?

[SUBGTRACER]

Pre patch 4 i only had a couple of crashes, happened three times yesterday and the last time it wiped all my data, all car set ups, ffb settings, everything. This happened while i was inputting Jack Spades settings, got all the way down to the Ruf gt3 when it happened.
Bit miffed tbh.

This is identical to what happened to me at the same time.

[Fre.Mo]

Track map on load screen is a welcome addition..


Indeed, but the map will be more usefull when choosing the track in the list (more particularly if there are several variants: international, sprint, GP...) instead of when loading the race (it's a bit late to be full of interest)...

[GForce]

Good job guys! thank you very much!

[Stuart Hunt]

I have installed the patch and loaded up the game but these invitations are still locked. Previous patch automatically unlocked certain bugged invitations, I'm assuming they're still bugged for me?

You need to win 2 and 4 team championships after the patch, previous wins don't count, sadly. The quickest way I found is Formula Rookie and it's fun, too.

Yes that's correct, should really have been listed in the patch notes. It wasn't possible to fix this one retrospectively so you need to win 4 more team championships to unlock the invitations.

[Liquid7394]

Indeed, but the map will be more usefull when choosing the track in the list (more particularly if there are several variants: international, sprint, gt...) instead of when loading the race (it's a bit late to be full of interest)...
You can already view the track layout during track selection.

[alunian]

Good news everyone,

the Patch 4.0 on PS4 has already gone live. Below you find the release notes.


Project CARS – PS4 Patch 4.0 – Release Notes

General
• Improved general game stability.

Can anyone confirm if Le Mans 24hr and the Endurance race at Watkins Glen no longer crashes to XMB in both accelerated time and real time settings?
Please see my original posts http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?22777-Crash-Freeze-on-PS4&p=1106883&viewfull=1#post1106883

[evanzo7]

With the Patch being out in the UK and not the USA is that stopping my American friends joining me online?

Had an issue last night where all my Brit and Belgian friends could join my session but not the Americans and vice versa. This due to patch not being released there yet?

[Bealdor]

With the Patch being out in the UK and not the USA is that stopping my American friends joining me online?

Had an issue last night where all my Brit and Belgian friends could join my session but not the Americans and vice versa. This due to patch not being released there yet?

Yes.

[Fre.Mo]

You can already view the track layout during track selection.

Really, how do you do? I don t have any map on the selection screen, only when the race is loading...

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[Mad Al]

Really, how do you do? I don t have any map on the selection screen, only when the race is loading...

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Note where it says... Browse full location list... try that

[PureMalt77]

• HUD – when adjusting real-time settings, for example Brake Balance, the player will now see a HUD message to indicate what the setting has been changed to. The HUD will display “N/A” in the real-time settings HUD, messaging when a specific setting is not available due to it being disabled in MP session or not present on the vehicle.


I was very excited about this change! But the way it was implemented is not optimal.

Assists set to Real. Take for example the BMW Z4 GT3, where all assists are available (ABS, TC, ESP, Brake Bias and Anti Roll Bars). I have all buttons mapped into my keyboard.

Pressing ABS button, for instance, shows a black bar with "AO" inside :confused:. Pressing again, same "AO" shows up.
Pressing TC, same thing, you get "TO".
Pressing brake-bias just shows D (decrease) or I (increase)

There is plenty of real state in the screen to write ABS On or ABS Off, TC On or TC Off!
For Brake Bias, I don't want to see if I'm increasing or decreasing, but the actual ratio number!

[Sankyo]

I was very excited about this change! But the way it was implemented is not optimal.

Assists set to Real. Take for example the BMW Z4 GT3, where all assists are available (ABS, TC, ESP, Brake Bias and Anti Roll Bars). I have all buttons mapped into my keyboard.

Pressing ABS button, for instance, shows a black bar with "AO" inside :confused:. Pressing again, same "AO" shows up.
Pressing TC, same thing, you get "TO".
Pressing brake-bias just shows D (decrease) or I (increase)

There is plenty of real state in the screen to write ABS On or ABS Off, TC On or TC Off!
For Brake Bias, I don't want to see if I'm increasing or decreasing, but the actual ratio number!
IIRC the text being corrupted on PS4 is a known issue.

[Haiden]

IIRC the text being corrupted on PS4 is a known issue.

Not really sure how that made it past testing. Seems like an easy thing to catch.

Tester presses button...

Dev: "Did it work?"
Tester: "Not really. Text isn't displaying correctly."
Dev: "Okay. Better check that out."

Rinse and repeat.

[Sankyo]

Not really sure how that made it past testing. Seems like an easy thing to catch.

Tester presses button...

Dev: "Did it work?"
Tester: "Not really. Text isn't displaying correctly."
Dev: "Okay. Better check that out."

Rinse and repeat.

It seems odd indeed, but I'm pretty sure that the process of testing and updating is slightly more complicated than that so things could get broken even after testing, for example. Not something you want to be possible, but it could happen. And then there's the occasional miscommunication or human error as well that can occur.

[Dasidnii]

Wow, i'm very pleased with this update. Great job you guys! Hopefully this won't add more than it fixes, and you guys can have a few days off! Lol

[madmax2069]

I wonder why SCEA hasn't released the patch yet.

[GForce]

IIRC the text being corrupted on PS4 is a known issue.

And hopefully this will be fixed that you can really see what you are changing with meaningful letters and numbers

[hellZfirEJP]

So we play in a champ with half of the guys using the european version and the other half the american one.

Sony pls. We have a race scheduled to this friday. :(

[GForce]

So we play in a champ with half of the guys using the european version and the other half the american one.

Sony pls. We have a race scheduled to this friday. :(

Ups not good, crossing fingers that Sony will release this to you guys very soon!
Cu
GForce

[Mascot]

So we play in a champ with half of the guys using the european version and the other half the american one.

Sony pls. We have a race scheduled to this friday. :(

Be careful what you wish for if any of them use the Formula rim with a Fanatec CSR Elite...

[mjemec11]

Yes that's correct, should really have been listed in the patch notes. It wasn't possible to fix this one retrospectively so you need to win 4 more team championships to unlock the invitations.

And I can confirm it works now. :cool:

[mcooley9891]

The 4.0 patch has some problems I can't join a online session with my friends and they can't join me

[Fre.Mo]

Note where it says... Browse full location list... try that

I already browsed the full location list pressing the triangle button, that is the second screenshot of my previous message and I had no map displayed...


Really, how do you do? I don t have any map on the selection screen, only when the race is loading...

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