View Full Version : Logitech G Championship Series Round 4: Audi R18 e-tron at Bugatti
Joseph Barron
16-06-2016, 10:19
Round 4 of the Logitech G Championship Series opens tomorrow.
Enter via the Community Events screen in-game, on all platforms. You will be driving the Audi R18 e-tron Quattro at Le Circuit Bugatti.
The main points from the Driver Briefings are now included in the official regulations (http://www.projectcarsesports.com/2016-logitech-g-championship-series.html) as well.
Only teams which registered during preseason will be eligible to score team championship points.
All drivers are eligible for driver championship points.
In the 2016 season, there are separate Divisions for PC and Console players. The PS4 and Xbox One physics/handling code is the same. There are some minor differences between the two consoles and PC, which is why we have separate Divisions for PC and Console.
EVENT REGULATIONS
Please read the FULL regulations on our Esports website (http://www.projectcarsesports.com/2016-logitech-g-championship-series.html). It is your responsibility as a competitor to read these. If you breach the rules either deliberately, or accidentally, ignorance is not an excuse.
TRACK LIMITS
It is critical that you obey the rules on track limits, which can be found in the official regulations (http://www.projectcarsesports.com/2016-logitech-g-championship-series.html).
Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt, the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not. A driver will be judged to have left the track if fewer than two wheels remain in contact with the track. These images from a previous Round (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=541268LIMITTRACK.jpg) may help you to understand what is valid, and what is not.
It is possible that you can cut the track or run wide without the game penalising you, and therefore your time & ghost will still appear on the leaderboard. SMS staff will review all of the ghost laps in the top 30 positions on all platforms to check whether drivers have stayed on track for their entire lap.
If we can see from your ghost that you cut the track or ran wide at any point, then we will not include your time in the official results.
You must obey the track limits rules around the entire circuit, but please pay particular care on all wide kerbs, on any tarmac/concrete/painted run-off areas and in any areas of sand, gravel or grass.
At Le Circuit Bugatti, you should be particularly careful with track limits in the following places:
- Dunlop Chicane (Turns 2/3)
- Chemin aux Boeufs (Turns 7/8)
- 'S' du Garage Bleu (Turns 9/10)
- Raccordement (Turn 11)
If you are unsure which corners these are, please see this circuit map (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Bugatti_Circuit.svg).
Improved times with track cuts
If you improve your time on the leaderboard, but exceed track limits on your new lap, then your time will be eliminated. If this happens, we do not roll back to your previous valid lap time. Only your fastest lap on the leaderboard at the end of the event will be considered for the final results.
Therefore, if during a lap you think that you might have cut a corner or run-wide even slightly, please back-off & abandon the lap, rather than set an invalid lap for the leaderboard. Otherwise you risk setting an invalid lap that you cannot replace with a faster, valid lap before the end of the event, meaning you miss out on possible championship points.
DISPUTES AND APPEALS
If the SMS staff decide that your ghost is marginal on track limits, we may contact you to ask for additional evidence. The only additional evidence that we will accept is chase camera footage of your actual lap, not of the ghost. Any footage you give to us must include the final corner from the lap before your flying lap.
If you think that your lap is close to the limit of the track at any point, please save the replay. Then if we ask you for any additional evidence, you will be able to provide us with chase camera footage of your lap.
Failure to provide this footage can result in your time being left out of the official results.
We may also request this same video evidence if you claim after the event that a lap deemed to be invalid by SMS staff, was valid. The procedure is the same as the one above. Failure to provide this footage will result in your time being left out of the results.
Assists
You can run with assists on. In "Help & Options" if you set the assists to "Real", you will get these same settings in the event. However, only the chosen car's real-world assists will work.
Review of the points awarded so far in the LGCS
SMS has been asked by some competitors to double-check the points totals awarded so far in the LGCS. SMS is now conducting a thorough review of the LGCS championship points. Following this review, any necessary adjustments will be made during the summer break, after LGCS Round 5.
Hi,
Just a quick question.... Is it possible to update the results?
Thanks
Joseph Barron
16-06-2016, 13:01
Hi,
Just a quick question.... Is it possible to update the results?
Thanks
That's what we are investigating at the moment. Any necessary changes may be made during the summer break.
Team VRroom will be pulling out of both these championships. I am aware that it's been said that our points will be looked at but these points have been wrong for over 3 weeks now and it's simply not good enough.
shame because we where doing so well and with only 3 drivers ;) for both championships
Joseph Barron
19-06-2016, 11:04
Team VRroom will be pulling out of both these championships. I am aware that it's been said that our points will be looked at but these points have been wrong for over 3 weeks now and it's simply not good enough.
shame because we where doing so well and with only 3 drivers ;) for both championships
SMS has been investigating this points issue. We believe that the problem has now been identified, and we intend to publish corrected rankings alongside the results of LGCS Round 4 in the coming days.
I appreciate the prompt response but we are pulling out of this. These points are wrong but only ours? Due to the constant cheating and this one rule for one and another rule for everyone else is not what we thought it was going to be.
VRroom are out.. Period. Good luck to everyone else still involved in this manufactured championship.
Unity_BaB
20-06-2016, 07:48
hello, the ranking is still not up to date, this is not serious! The drivers are tired of your league, wake up and act! With the potential that can have PCARS I think you could do much better for the world championship. Could we also have details when a player is disqualified?
Unity_BaB
Joseph Barron
20-06-2016, 09:11
hello, the ranking is still not up to date, this is not serious! The drivers are tired of your league, wake up and act! With the potential that can have PCARS I think you could do much better for the world championship. Could we also have details when a player is disqualified?
Unity_BaB
As stated above, the LGCS rankings will be updated this week, at the same time that we publish the results from Round 4.
Yes, from now on we intend to publish details when a player is disqualified.
Unity_BaB
20-06-2016, 09:15
this is good thank you!
I personally think that the potential of this has been and gone.
I wish you would let the guys who have been running these communities for years help you. As in all of them, It doesn't matter whether it's aor, VRroom, apex.. You should get all these guys together and at least speaking to one another we could point out the blatant failure of what is being presented here. Sorry but it's true.
GT sports will inevitably appeal to the masses but everyone who's anyone in the sim racing world knows that it's just not going to cut it when it comes to the level of realism and the potential of pcars going forward.
I wish that other communities out there where more interested in developing this pie into more than just the crust.
I personally think it's a bit silly not to use the knowledge of these guys, I mean the car/track combinations presented were asking for these problems and just one question i would like ask.. What if any anti cheat measures are in place to stop people sharing their accounts to set these times?
Sorry again for going on a bit, I'm just a little frustrated at the way this esports competition heading.
Grantpoole
20-06-2016, 21:19
I've enjoyed all of these so far.
But man this Audi is hard to see out of :D
SDL Rotax
21-06-2016, 00:25
Congrats to all, great round on this beautiful Track, here's my lap :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q3lZK862Iw
claytonssv
21-06-2016, 00:38
I've enjoyed all of these so far.
But man this Audi is hard to see out of :D
I agree. Personally I'm a fan of the interior view. If realism is what PCars is striving for then why not lock in cockpit view for everyone in competitions like this? It was definitely more of a challenge in the Audi. Most of the apexes a were blind!
I don't remember seeing Andre Lotterer sitting on the rear wing of his Audi for a better view this weekend!
But that's not to take away anything from the front runners. Great driving (and setups) again. Congratulations!
SDL Rotax
21-06-2016, 01:52
I agree with you, but there is still a big difference between a game and real life, personnaly, I can not play interior view, the field of view is too small, on my 80cm TV, I see only 40 cm of track, again, in real life, our eyes focus on the circuit, in a game, it is much more complicated.
When I drive on real circuit, on the Bugatti for example, I have no problem to take the car where I want, and I do not think putting me lying on the roof would help me to improve my trajectories ^^
I play roof view, or hood, because I find it more realistic, views offered by Project Cars are really well made :)
claytonssv
21-06-2016, 03:11
I agree with you, but there is still a big difference between a game and real life, personnaly, I can not play interior view, the field of view is too small, on my 80cm TV, I see only 40 cm of track, again, in real life, our eyes focus on the circuit, in a game, it is much more complicated.
When I drive on real circuit, on the Bugatti for example, I have no problem to take the car where I want, and I do not think putting me lying on the roof would help me to improve my trajectories ^^
I play roof view, or hood, because I find it more realistic, views offered by Project Cars are really well made :)
I would have thought the pillars and mirrors and things in the way would be more realistic but you make an interesting point. I must confess I run triple monitors, but default FOV.
The height difference makes crests a little easier though, for example in your video you can see the exit of Dunlop over the crest, just, but in cockpit view all I could see was sky and had to guess. Of course it's my choice to run like that though. Fantastic, clean lap btw. Nice.
Unity_BaB
21-06-2016, 10:33
Rotax nice ride!
* quick question: the use of 2 account in the settlement is officialy banned if the person is placed in the top 10 and top 30 ps4 is it punished?
Rotax nice ride!
* quick question: the use of 2 account in the settlement is officialy banned if the person is placed in the top 10 and top 30 ps4 is it punished?
Yep this is kinda what i was getting at but also what's to stop one teams quickest driver sharing accounts with one another?
This is quite an important question considering there's money involved.
I mean we had drivers in this championship doing doughnuts at the start of Laguna seca to gain 2 tenths so it's easy to imagine that one or two of these guys are sharing accounts. Just to put my mind at rest could we have an official response regarding any anti cheat measures you may have in play to prevent this?
Unity_BaB
21-06-2016, 11:49
I also hope that the 30 ghosts will be looked at, find themselves at the back of the players xbox while I'm more rapid on ps4 it would not be fair!
Andy Tudor
21-06-2016, 12:05
I mean we had drivers in this championship doing doughnuts at the start of Laguna seca to gain 2 tenths so it's easy to imagine that one or two of these guys are sharing accounts. Just to put my mind at rest could we have an official response regarding any anti cheat measures you may have in play to prevent this?
Hey there. There is no method of enforcing this unfortunately. We cannot demand drivers stream their laps, and there's nothing built into either the consoles nor PC to guarantee that the person that set the lap is indeed the account holder. We are not the only game to have this issue and therefore we are in the same situation as many others. Whilst we hope this is not happening on a large scale, please rest assured that we are keeping an eye on a few individuals that we believe may be doing this and - as ever - will take appropriate action if that suspicious is proven. We will only ever act upon corroborated evidence, as always, here.
Thank you for the reply Andy T unfortunately this is the main reason for our departure from this championship as this will be most certainly be happening.
There are however work arounds to counter act this but it would mean either a lot of communication and help from all parties/communities or can the same be done with pcars as Twitch Ie if you share the account you will receive a ip infringement.
I don't think im alone in wanting this to work, we are currently speaking with a company regarding potential sponsorship as are many other teams.
I've been talking about this for the last 5 years and now it's here but there's always going to be cheats and unless theres something in place to prevent this in the future then im afraid this will become the norm for all the top teams.
JohnSchoonsBeard
21-06-2016, 14:12
In the end my team are in this for the fun of it. Once prizes start being offered some people get too serious. We'll certainly carry on competing. A couple of our team have got close to the top 40-50 but we're all simply in it to enjoy competing and test ourselves. There will always be cheats where there are loopholes but I think in the end most of the competitors are honest.
Take away the prizes and there will still be some cheating going on but some will go to less lengths to win. Anything that can be done to eliminate some of the more blatent cheating in Project Cars 2 will of course be appreciated.
Keep it up SMS. We're really enjoying the challenges and car/track combinations.
BTW - both iRacing and now apparently GT Sports will also have anti cheat measures because believe it or not, this sort of behaviour was happening 2 years ago in the GT Academy. Difference is GT have listened to the community and everything we ever needed (especially from a marshaling and hosting pov) is now in this game.
You guys really do need to start listening to guys that's been running these rooms/communities since before project cars was even an idea.
TT esports is stupid and was destined to fail from the start.
Andy Tudor
23-06-2016, 11:37
There are however work arounds to counter act this but it would mean either a lot of communication and help from all parties/communities
We are open to all options. If you have some knowledge in this area, please feel free to share.
or can the same be done with pcars as Twitch Ie if you share the account you will receive a ip infringement.
As said, there's no way to enforce this. Eg.. I could give you my Xbox or Steam login details and you could set a time on your home computer under my name. There's no way around this.
I've been talking about this for the last 5 years and now it's here but there's always going to be cheats and unless theres something in place to prevent this in the future then im afraid this will become the norm for all the top teams.
If you've been talking about this for the last 5 years we'd have been happy to listen but since you only have 9 posts on our forum that communication line hasn't been open unfortunately.
We're always here to listen to you guys and we have many discussions with our drivers both on the forum, in private message, and via email, as well as Skype calls so it's sorry to see you guys go but we wish you all the best for the future.
Joseph Barron
23-06-2016, 12:32
The results from Logitech G Championship Series Round 4 have now been published.
http://www.projectcarsesports.com/home/logitech-g-championship-series-round-4-results
Corrections to LGCS points standings: Console Division ONLY
In addition to this week’s results, we have concluded our investigation into a query of incorrect Championship Points having being awarded to some drivers. This was isolated to the LGCS Series only, and was specific to Rounds 1 and 2 of the Console Division. It was caused by the published results not matching the in-game leaderboard. Some driver points were also assigned to teams incorrectly, meaning that a few teams had incorrect points totals.
This has now been rectified, so you may notice that your team now has different points than it did before. The new standings are correct and will not be adjusted again.
You can view the updated results for Rounds 1 and 2 at the link below under "Previous Results."
http://www.projectcarsesports.com/2016-logitech-g-championship-series.html
Drivers Eliminated from the Round 4 Results
The following drivers unfortunately had to be eliminated from the Round 4 Results. Please note that SMS is not accusing the drivers listed below of cheating. However, you may need to be more respectful of the white lines in future. If you place three or more wheels outside the white lines at any point, then you have cut the track and your lap cannot be included in the results.
Console Eliminations
Unity_GTurbo
Three wheels off the track: Inside of turn 8
Joker_ops_
Three wheels off the track: Inside of turn 2
PSFRacing_ART
Three wheels off the track: Inside of turn 3
SRT_Falcon31
Three wheels off the track: Inside of turn 3
Unity_YoDa
Three wheels off the track: Wide at the exit of turn 3
SDL Taze13
Three wheels off the track: Inside of turns 7, 11
PC Eliminations
HeadPain
Three wheels off the track: Wide at the exit of turn 3
jeda50
Three wheels off the track: Wide at turn 11
SDL Speeddmon91
Three wheels off the track: Wide at the exit of turn 4
w0rthy
Three wheels off the track: Wide at the exit of turn 4
Wazagork
Three wheels off the track: Wide at turn 11
lore asr1927
Three wheels off the track: Wide at the exit of turn 3
[CAR]@Brembo
Three wheels off the track: Inside of turns 7, 8
Sgt. Malarkey
Three wheels off the track: Wide at the exit of turn 11
We are open to all options. If you have some knowledge in this area, please feel free to share.
As said, there's no way to enforce this. Eg.. I could give you my Xbox or Steam login details and you could set a time on your home computer under my name. There's no way around this.
If you've been talking about this for the last 5 years we'd have been happy to listen but since you only have 9 posts on our forum that communication line hasn't been open unfortunately.
We're always here to listen to you guys and we have many discussions with our drivers both on the forum, in private message, and via email, as well as Skype calls so it's sorry to see you guys go but we wish you all the best for the future.
Unfortunately Mr Tutor your appointed moderators on here made it impossible for me from day one. I've been banned on here so many times for voicing an opinion and I did approach a few people on here including Joe barron but one again your mods banned me before we had chance to speak.
Oh and just in case your wondering the mods who keep banning me are racing with another community on here who clearly didn't want us involved.
Fact is our members are like family and have all worked very hard over the years as a team to be what we are today. This is why Vrroom.org been around for so long and why we're able to compete against these (manufactured) teams so competitively. 6th and 7th in both championships with half a team because we didn't really know what was going on which again is the point.. You want the best to get involved in this esports, yet you have no idea who's who out there.. You can ask any of these top drivers, we all know each other and we all have each other added.
Your business model and what you did with this game bugs aside is incredible but going forward with this esports i personally think that your lost.
I've offered my help plenty of times on here, but nobody wanted to listen they just wanted to take the piss. So here we are.. GTPlanet were listening though ;) and now we have (pad mode and wheel mode) sorry but you guys had your chance with me and as far as I'm concerned I'm now on the GT camp full time ;) shame because i would have loved the challenge of taking on the big boys with you but unfortunately I'm not willing to part with £10.000 for that opportunity.
Oh and don't bother banning me again because there's no need.. I've said all ive got to say. Goodbye and good luck
Unfortunately Mr Tutor your appointed moderators on here made it impossible for me from day one. I've been banned on here so many times for voicing an opinion and I did approach a few people on here including Joe barron but one again your mods banned me before we had chance to speak.
Blaa
Oh and just in case your wondering the mods who keep banning me are racing with another community on here who clearly didn't want us involved.
Fact is our members are like family and have all worked very hard over the years as a team to be what we are today. This is why Vrroom.org been around for so long and why we're able to compete against these (manufactured) teams so competitively. 6th and 7th in both championships with half a team because we didn't really know what was going on which again is the point.. You want the best to get involved in this esports, yet you have no idea who's who out there.. You can ask any of these top drivers, we all know each other and we all have each other added.
Your business model and what you did with this game bugs aside is incredible but going forward with this esports i personally think that your lost.
Blaablaa
I've offered my help plenty of times on here, but nobody wanted to listen they just wanted to take the piss. So here we are.. GTPlanet were listening though ;) and now we have (pad mode and wheel mode) sorry but you guys had your chance with me and as far as I'm concerned I'm now on the GT camp full time ;) shame because i would have loved the challenge of taking on the big boys with you but unfortunately I'm not willing to part with £10.000 for that opportunity.
Oh and don't bother banning me again because there's no need.. I've said all ive got to say. Goodbye and good luck
Goodbye! :)
Before everyone from Apex starts jumping all over this getting all excited waving their arms in the air, let's get back to the elephant in the room.. Which is the simple fact that everyone of these top teams will be sharing their accounts and it's stupid to think it's not happening. This brings me back to my point, that running a TT as a esports in the sim racing world is crazy
Before everyone from Apex starts jumping all over this getting all excited waving their arms in the air, let's get back to the elephant in the room.. Which is the simple fact that everyone of these top teams will be sharing their accounts and it's stupid to think it's not happening. This brings me back to my point, that running a TT as a esports in the sim racing world is crazy
"Oh and don't bother banning me again because there's no need.. I've said all ive got to say. Goodbye and good luck" - You are not holding your promises though... Your pitty comments about how unfair VRroom gets treated is an old one to be honest..
Unfortunately Mr Tutor your appointed moderators on here made it impossible for me from day one. I've been banned on here so many times for voicing an opinion and I did approach a few people on here including Joe barron but one again your mods banned me before we had chance to speak.
Please stop acting murdered innocence. You were banned in the past because you wouldn't stop fighting your personal feuds in this forum and your aggressive 'promotion' of your own league. You've been given plenty of chances to come back and behave decently but you repeatedly fell back into your old rude behaviour and chest thumping which had nothing to do with 'voicing an opinion'. Everything that has happened in the past was due to your own inability to behave normally in this forum.
So stop your unbased insinuations about mods driving in rival leagues and being a victim of it all. This is a final warning.
Remco.. Tell me that I'm wrong? Tell me you don't think everyone involved in this championship is cheating ie sharing accounts... There's 10k up for grabs, you would need to be pretty stupid to think that this wasn't happening.
That's all I'm saying. To run a serious esports competition for money like this isn't good for simracing in general. Anti cheat measures are required plain and simple.
I'm not posting because i want to fight, I'm posting on here because nobody is asking the most fundamental questions
Remco.. Tell me that I'm wrong? Tell me you don't think everyone involved in this championship is cheating ie sharing accounts... There's 10k up for grabs, you would need to be pretty stupid to think that this wasn't happening.
That's all I'm saying. To run a serious esports competition for money like this isn't good for simracing in general. Anti cheat measures are required plain and simple.
I was only reacting to your insinuation that the moderators on this forum have been treating you unfairly because of conflicting interests, please read properly what I write and do not pull it out of context or change the subject.
Sorry Remco i didn't realise it was me who was changing the subject.. The hot topic here is most definitely about the cheats and the account shearing.
Unity_BaB
25-06-2016, 11:30
please can we have with detail changes to the ranking recently? thank you
Mr Tudor ive sent you something for you to mull over... I hope that you get chance to look at it and i look forward to your feedback.
This should and will fix this problem.
are you saying his lap shouldn't count? you must have not watched the entire thing. he also has the replay with external cam and shows every questionable area, and he's valid.
Edit: post i was referring to has since been deleted.
Unity_BaB
27-06-2016, 19:36
I confirm I am thrilled me stupidly sorry
are you saying his lap shouldn't count? you must have not watched the entire thing. he also has the replay with external cam and shows every questionable area, and he's valid.
Edit: post i was referring to has since been deleted.
Deleted post's by mods seems to be the norm on here
no it actually was a post Unity BaB (above you post) made, and then deleted it when he saw his mistake.
cornishbrooksy
27-06-2016, 21:27
Deleted post's by mods seems to be the norm on here
I don't know what you can see (as a normal user) but i can see that the original poster deleted his own message.
Please do not post baseless accusations here as you may find your time here to be very short.
@broosky : as a mod, you can see posts that are removed - and who removed them - but as a non-mod, it simply appears as if the post never existed :yes:
Nevertheless, it was another unwarranted stab at the mods after I gave him his final warning earlier, which is not tolerated.
Nevertheless, it was another unwarranted stab at the mods after I gave him his final warning earlier, which is not tolerated.
"-VR-N-" incoming :D :D
Whoa this e-sports stuff is filled with toxicity :eek:
Maybe it has a higher octane rating
Unity_BaB
29-06-2016, 18:58
please can we have with detail changes to the ranking recently? thank you
Project CARS Esports
30-06-2016, 09:05
please can we have with detail changes to the ranking recently? thank you
We will send you a PM.
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