Project CARS 2 - general discussion thread

[nO_d3N1AL]

I like this game but the increasing number of bugs I'm encountering and slow response from developers makes me wish I waited for a sale instead of getting it on launch.

[Cholton82]

I'm having trouble heating tyres up , GT3 Ferrari at Snetterton in the 2nd round of the British GT3 championship and its raining in qualifying . My tyres are hovering around the 40 mark and no matter what I do I can't get any heat in them . Also don't they use tyre blankets as I always leave the pits cold ?

[dault3883]

I like this game but the increasing number of bugs I'm encountering and slow response from developers makes me wish I waited for a sale instead of getting it on launch.

buying a new game at launch is like buying a brand new car there is always bugs and glitches that pop up. Why do you think so many new cars have recalls. i dont agree in it i think a game or car when sold should have all bugs worked out first but then again thats in a perfect scenario unfortunately real life reality isn't a perfect scenario. Bugs and glitches will happen and SMS has to replicate those problems first before they can fix them so it will take time have patiance, and im sure Pcars2 isnt your only game you have either play something else if you must in the mean time.

[Konan]

I like this game but the increasing number of bugs I'm encountering and slow response from developers makes me wish I waited for a sale instead of getting it on launch.

You want them over here or working on the patches?

[PervasiveFall8]

You want them over here or working on the patches?

I'm pretty sure the response he meant was the patch(s). Not words here.
I understand everyone is getting a bit tired of the negative-- just a couple patches away from getting that behind us.

[mister dog]

Bugs annoy me too, but the launch version of the game is stable enough to avoid them for the time being and still have a great time.

[Scuderia Paul]

The slogan 'Anytime Anywhere' is a perfect fit for the online disconnections as it turns out.

When you get in it is usually brilliant though.

[cxMilk]

Don't know if it's a bug or I'm just blind and missing an option somewhere. Hoping it's the latter.

HUD shows PSI for tire pressures and C for brake temps, but telemetry screen shows BAR for tire pressures and F for brake temps?

[mister dog]

Some comments on online I wanted to throw in here:

- I can't find lobbies my steam buddies make, doesn't matter where they are from (EU like me or the US), their lobby doesn't appear when i have 'all' enabled. Only once I saw them appear, but the next 10 or so games we had since then we had to send out invites each time.
- The favorites don't work still? Wanted to save a lobby setting but I just got blank widgets.
- We experienced a bug online this evening that after both me and my friend started the session, our wheels nor pedals weren't working. We had to restart the whole game before we had inputs registering (restarting the session didn't work). I had it happening yesterday too, but seeing you now have 2 dudes in different countries with different hardware experiencing it I'm pretty sure its another bug.
- It would be nice if the host could skip or restart the session when it began already. Maybe the button is there and we just didn't see it?

If these subjects were mentioned already in the gazillion threads out there my apologies, it's bed time and I didn't want to spend the next half hour searching.
Also if others have some advice for these issues please do chime in :).

[proterra1]

Bit late for a first thoughts post but here goes anyway...

At uni currently but I went home to play the game on release day, (family thought I was coming to see them! ;)) and it was amazing!

I first raced at Knockhill with the new snow & rain weather transitions and then I tried ice racing, then some rallycross, then Indianapolis, then karts, multiclass GT3 racing and Formula X... arghh, so much to fun to be had but not enought time. I could only play for one day and couldn't possibly try everything out but I tried my best! It was so much fun and so much improved over the first game that I can't wait to get back to the play game over Christmas. So many more features and modes I'm looking forward to including career, online multiplayer and some DLC maybe out by Christmas too.

Thanks for a great game SMS! It's going to be a long 11 weeks.

[Pisshead30]

Bit late for a first thoughts post but here goes anyway...

At uni currently but I went home to play the game on release day, (family thought I was coming to see them! ;)) and it was amazing!

I first raced at Knockhill with the new snow & rain weather transitions and then I tried ice racing, then some rallycross, then Indianapolis, then karts, multiclass GT3 racing and Formula X... arghh, so much to fun to be had but not enought time. I could only play for one day and couldn't possibly try everything out but I tried my best! It was so much fun and so much improved over the first game that I can't wait to get back to the play game over Christmas. So many more features and modes I'm looking forward to including career, online multiplayer and some DLC maybe out by Christmas too.

Thanks for a great game SMS! It's going to be a long 11 weeks.

Why don't you take your ps4 to Uni?

[Trippul G]

Why don't you take your ps4 to Uni?

Probably because he wants to graduate. ;)

[proterra1]

Why don't you take your ps4 to Uni?


Probably because he wants to graduate. ;)

Exactly! If I had PCars2 in my room it would be the biggest distraction especially if I brought my wheel too. There would be zero chance of me passing any exams. I just wouldn't be able to resist a quick race after lectures and then just 1 more etc...

[dault3883]

Exactly! If I had PCars2 in my room it would be the biggest distraction especially if I brought my wheel too. There would be zero chance of me passing any exams. I just wouldn't be able to resist a quick race after lectures and then just 1 more etc...

do whats best for your study's there's always time to race later

[Civic]

well maybe they should be teaked?
I made all my Frookie championship on wet tires because they were way faster than slick and they were not overheating nor got any wear

I wasn't saying there isn't a bug, clearly there is in regards to heating but it seems to be track specific and sometimes the tyres are working as you would expect with normal heating and the slicks at those times are faster than the wets. It would seem that the slicks are slower with less grip when they are outside operating range and for some reason at many tracks there is a temperature bug associated with these tyres. The grip levels don't seem to need tweaking.

On the other hand the wets need tweaking because they hold up far too well when punished in hot weather. I had the wets at 108 degrees Celcius and they only started to drop performance after about 10 laps.

[Khyber GT]

Exactly! If I had PCars2 in my room it would be the biggest distraction especially if I brought my wheel too. There would be zero chance of me passing any exams. I just wouldn't be able to resist a quick race after lectures and then just 1 more etc...

you just lack discipline. apart of growing up. learn it now. ;)

[Konan]

you just lack discipline. apart of growing up. learn it now.

If that was a joke please use smileys...If it wasn't please stop getting too personal...

[Tank621]

Have I missed something with the manufacturer drive stuff. I completed the Ginetta one and got an e-mail and an accolade. I have the achievements for becoming a 'brand advoacate' and 'factory driver'. Is there something I'm missing here? Or maybe I haven't actually fully completed it and haven't realised?

This is the quote from the career article on it:

When you successfully complete the Proving Grounds event, you will be tagged as a Factory Driver. You then get the opportunity to compete in a series of Manufacturer Drives, driving a selection of their cars. Successful completion of these will result in unlocking a car for that manufacturer.

[Eric Rowland]

do whats best for your study's there's always time to race later

Yeah, but on the way to class you could get run over by a bus, or worse, by a steam roller......:rolleyes:

[JJ Addison]

Cant find a place to ask so asking here.....any one know how to save a session when your in a custom event. Do we really have to loose the entire event cuz my wife needs me to start dinner??

[Seelenkrank]

return to the settings should pause the game (?)
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why is the seat position not car based?
drive the Porsche GT3 RS today, setup my seatposition then swaped to the GT-86 and my nose stuck on the windscreen...
*serious*???
this cant be real to set all the time the same stuff to play...
give me a dashcam view like in AC and im fine... (no more setup anything because it is fixed).

[Scuderia Paul]

Another night and an endless battle to join a race online. 7 attempts so far... Last night after 8 disconnections in a championship lobby I gave up.

Hopefully v1.04 solves the PS4 connection issues because it is seriously frustrating.

EDIT We have a new record of 12 attempts and 2 game crashes tonight. I gave up after that.

Other games are working fine online just incase there are any suggestions...

[kutta]

I was wondering if someone knew if it was possible to have more AI cars than 32 on some tracks ?
For example, I used to drive on Le Mans with 56 cars on PC1 but can only put 32 on PC2 which make that track pretty empty.

[Trippul G]

I was wondering if someone knew if it was possible to have more AI cars than 32 on some tracks ?
For example, I used to drive on Le Mans with 56 cars on PC1 but can only put 32 on PC2 which make that track pretty empty.

The limits for PCARS2 in terms of on track cars are unfortunately lower when compared to PCARS1, due to much more going on under the hood (more detailed tire model, changing weather, Livetrack, etc.)

[Khyber GT]

If that was a joke please use smileys...If it wasn't please stop getting too personal...

i put a smiley in it just for you... not personal. just speaking truth... discipline is a part of growing up....everyone relax... especially for silly infraction i got over that. good grief

[Mahjik]

i put a smiley in it just for you... not personal. just speaking truth... discipline is a part of growing up....everyone relax... especially for silly infraction i got over that. good grief

It was a warning, not an infraction (i.e. it disappears in 10 days).

[Civic]

i put a smiley in it just for you... not personal. just speaking truth... discipline is a part of growing up....everyone relax... especially for silly infraction i got over that. good grief

Your truth. My truth when I read that was I personally understood you to be an ignorant person who is condescending and judgemental from a place of ignorance considering my truth is an understanding of how not everyone's mind works the same and an understanding that what works for you will not work for everyone and an understanding of how the person you were replying to was practising discipline. My personal truth was by commenting the way you did you showed less maturity which is a part of growing up.

Anyway I did not feel the need to share any of that with you because I understand personal truth and I understand the conflict expressing your personal truth can cause when you share it with people who don't understand that personal truth isn't in fact truth, it's just what you believe.

But since you decided to reply again the way you just did again claiming a belief as fact. I just thought it would be a good time to correct you. I'm sure you'll take correction well since you have no trouble correcting others.

[Khyber GT]

lol.... :rolleyes:

[Civic]

I just found something interesting. The 488 GT3 is really fast. So fast in fact around Bathurst I can run just as quick in it on Wet tyres in the rain as I can in some other GT3 cars on soft slicks in the dry.

I think I've found what I'll be racing from now on. From a person who loves to hate Ferrari this is a tough pill to swallow.

[dault3883]

I just found something interesting. The 488 GT3 is really fast. So fast in fact around Bathurst I can run just as quick in it on Wet tyres in the rain as I can in some other GT3 cars on soft slicks in the dry.

I think I've found what I'll be racing from now on. From a person who loves to hate Ferrari this is a tough pill to swallow.

that sounds like a glitch to me that should be fixed but still nice tip. is it faster than all those other cars when on dry slicks

[Aldo Zampatti]

I'll pass this.

[F1_Racer68]

I just found something interesting. The 488 GT3 is really fast. So fast in fact around Bathurst I can run just as quick in it on Wet tyres in the rain as I can in some other GT3 cars on soft slicks in the dry.

I think I've found what I'll be racing from now on. From a person who loves to hate Ferrari this is a tough pill to swallow.

One of our GT3 drivers, is as fast in that car as most of the GTE drivers. It's going to make for an interesting season.........

[dault3883]

One of our GT3 drivers, is as fast in that car as most of the GTE drivers. It's going to make for an interesting season.........

i once out performed a heard of 3 GT1 Aston Martins with a Spyker GT2 car on Grid in two different races LOL it wasnt easy so i can see how on a video game it could be done but in real life the BOP hammer would be slammed down LOL ;)

[Civic]

Oh yeah. Normally when I tested the other cars I always jumped into a testing session with light cloud and on soft slicks. The fastest I ran in any other car in those conditions has been 2:08 with 25l of fuel. In the Ferrari I jumped into a test session where I set the weather to start with light cloud but change to rain. On SS also with 25l of fuel I went out as it started spitting on my window and ran a 2:06. I came in for wets and ran a 2:10 in the rain which matches my Ginetta and Z4 times on soft slicks in the dry.

[dault3883]

I just found something interesting. The 488 GT3 is really fast. So fast in fact around Bathurst I can run just as quick in it on Wet tyres in the rain as I can in some other GT3 cars on soft slicks in the dry.

I think I've found what I'll be racing from now on. From a person who loves to hate Ferrari this is a tough pill to swallow.


Oh yeah. Normally when I tested the other cars I always jumped into a testing session with light cloud and on soft slicks. The fastest I ran in any other car in those conditions has been 2:08 with 25l of fuel. In the Ferrari I jumped into a test session where I set the weather to start with light cloud but change to rain. On SS also with 25l of fuel I went out as it started spitting on my window and ran a 2:06. I came in for wets and ran a 2:10 in the rain which matches my Ginetta and Z4 times on soft slicks in the dry.

no i meant when you went out on a dry track with the ferrari on dry tires where you going that much faster than the other cars were going in dry conditions on dry tires to guarantee the trend continues and not some freak glitch

[Civic]

Yes.

[kutta]

The limits for PCARS2 in terms of on track cars are unfortunately lower when compared to PCARS1, due to much more going on under the hood (more detailed tire model, changing weather, Livetrack, etc.)

So, there is no way to increase it? Aww, I'm a bit sad to hear it. I'm such a big fan of Le Mans races and this game is the best one for recreating this event atm. It just miss few more cars to be my heaven.
Thank you for your reply Trippul G!

[Olijke Poffer]

Is there a problem with the ghost cars? I cannot choose my personal best time ghost, nor do I see any ghost like world best etc..

[Sankyo]

Is there a problem with the ghost cars? I cannot choose my personal best time ghost, nor do I see any ghost like world best etc..

Are you saying that you're not seeing any available ghosts on the TT leaderboards?

[Olijke Poffer]

Are you saying that you're not seeing any available ghosts on the TT leaderboards?
No I can see them but they do no load when I select them.

Just took a look. Today I managed to load in a ghost.. strange. Yesterday it did not. But one thing remains, my own personal best ghost is not been saved. So I can’t select it in the menu with the add ghost option..

[Sankyo]

No I can see them but they do no load when I select them.

Just took a look. Today I managed to load in a ghost.. strange. Yesterday it did not. But one thing remains, my own personal best ghost is not been saved. So I can’t select it in the menu with the add ghost option..
What car/track combo?

[Tank621]

Have I missed something with the manufacturer drive stuff. I completed the Ginetta one and got an e-mail and an accolade. I have the achievements for becoming a 'brand advoacate' and 'factory driver'. Is there something I'm missing here? Or maybe I haven't actually fully completed it and haven't realised?

This is the quote from the career article on it:

When you successfully complete the Proving Grounds event, you will be tagged as a Factory Driver. You then get the opportunity to compete in a series of Manufacturer Drives, driving a selection of their cars. Successful completion of these will result in unlocking a car for that manufacturer.

As a bit of context I have won 4 races in the Ginetta one but I didn't see any indication of actually 'unlocking' a car or anything

[Olijke Poffer]

What car/track combo?

Any track / car combo I presume. I tried it with oulton park an BRNO.. several cars.. the ghost will just not save.

Edit: The ghost is saved but I can’t select it. When I click on add ghost and select my personal best then you have to press the X to load it but it won’t. All I hears is just tue in game sound of pressing a button but It won’t load or go any further.
When I press the circle button to go back, I will see the add ghost option screen again but without my personal best ghost loaden.
Will upload a vid to show it..

[Olijke Poffer]

Any track / car combo I presume. I tried it with oulton park an BRNO.. several cars.. the ghost will just not save.

Edit: The ghost is saved but I can’t select it. When I click on add ghost and select my personal best then you have to press the X to load it but it won’t. All I hears is just tue in game sound of pressing a button but It won’t load or go any further.
When I press the circle button to go back, I will see the add ghost option screen again but without my personal best ghost loaden.
Will upload a vid to show it..

See short vid.. you see me pressing the personal best button but on the right screen it won’t show up etc..


https://youtu.be/7eAlZJYjNyg

[Sankyo]

Any track / car combo I presume. I tried it with oulton park an BRNO.. several cars.. the ghost will just not save.

Edit: The ghost is saved but I can’t select it. When I click on add ghost and select my personal best then you have to press the X to load it but it won’t. All I hears is just tue in game sound of pressing a button but It won’t load or go any further.
When I press the circle button to go back, I will see the add ghost option screen again but without my personal best ghost loaden.
Will upload a vid to show it..
This should be fixed in the upcoming patch.

[Civic]

I just want to race but constant network issues result in me getting constantly disconnected from every session I join. I'm raging so much on the inside right now.

[riverreveal]

After trying Forza 7, I now think Project cars 2 is an incredible technical achievement on nearly every level.

[Nyreen]

Hi everyone (I'm new :) ) !

Firstly, congrats to the team for releasing the game I'm waiting since a bit, now. My hardcore gaming soul is quite active and I thank you all for wasting my time, to the profit of an enjoyable driving experience !

As I've heard and read on multiple forums, the game seems to have a lot more problems than I expected. However, I don't recall a lot of them, but more of the minor ones that I don't really care (for example, best car laptimes in the loading screen are more like the best class laptimes ; omg 60€ wasted).

The one I recall is gameplay-wise, the clutch issue where I can just lift the throttle of an old Escort RS and upshift, whether or not I have auto-clutch enabled, or mechanical issues. It's no different from the Ginetta G55 (except sequential shifter) where I had to lift the throttle a bit and revmatch to make the gear change smoother. Oh yeah, it feels better when I use the clutch on the upshifts. That's the difference with the Ginetta.

I'm quite sure this bug is noticed by SMS but I want a confirmation : is this going to be patched ? Is this way of shifting intended ? If I borrow someone's E30 M3, could I say "easy bruh, clutchless shifts on 'dis car bruh" ?

Excuse my lack of proper english, though.

[Scuderia Paul]

When you finish an online PCars2 night a net 63 points down because of 2 disconnections.


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There will be no more online until the stability is greatly improved. I cannot afford to lose skill points this way.

[Civic]

I feel your rage Paul, I really felt it last night.

In my first race the leader in front of me started to slow down rapidly and I passed him for the lead. I was puzzled as to what was going on but shortly after that I was disconnected, I lost almost 50 points. Then I got one race in, I had issues toward the end of the race but made it to the end. Our lobby moved to the next session and I was disconnected in qualifying. Rejoined to be disconnected again. This process repeated for the rest of the night no matter what lobby I joined. Something my son noticed was many of the disconnections were occurring as I crossed the start/finish line.

Perhaps the connection issues is why online racing seems to be turning into ghost town. The other day there were pages and pages of GT3 lobbies. I jumped on yesterday and there were only 5 at one point with most lobbies having ratings turned off.

[Ravager619]

The TX Deluxe wheelstand I ordered last week arrived today. I can't believe how little effort it takes to play this game when I don't have to worry about the pedals moving around on the carpet or the wheel coming loose from my desk anymore.

[Trippul G]

The TX Deluxe wheelstand I ordered last week arrived today. I can't believe how little effort it takes to play this game when I don't have to worry about the pedals moving around on the carpet or the wheel coming loose from my desk anymore.

Yeah, a (relatively) cheap wheelstand, even a DIY one, is miles better than clamping to a table and having your pedals slide around on the carpet.

[cpcdem]

When you finish an online PCars2 night a net 63 points down because of 2 disconnections.
There will be no more online until the stability is greatly improved. I cannot afford to lose skill points this way.

May I ask why? So what's the problem in losing 63 or 100 or more points, if you do have great races online, at least from time to time?
Don't get me wrong, I agree problems must be fixed, but still (when I race with the proper clean people) I am finding online quite a blast, even at this stage. Yeah, I also lose a lot of points without it being my fault, but so what?

[nikowong]

How can I manually save a ghost in Time Attack mode? I'm playing the game on PS4

[TheKitten]

Anyone else think Group 5 is quite unbalanced, unless its supposed to be that way? The 935/80 demolishes everything. :rolleyes:

[Tank621]

Anyone else think Group 5 is quite unbalanced, unless its supposed to be that way? The 935/80 demolishes everything. :rolleyes:

I haven't tried Group 5 yet but Group C also feels a little bit unbalanced, the GTP ZX Turbos seem to be beyond the horizon by the end of the 1st lap on every race I've done so far

[Alfisti]

The TX Deluxe wheelstand I ordered last week arrived today. I can't believe how little effort it takes to play this game when I don't have to worry about the pedals moving around on the carpet or the wheel coming loose from my desk anymore.

Is it really that good? I have a wheel but nowhere to mount it and whilst i can swing a full seat and rig, i cannot use that in the family room where the PS4 is and tbh don't want to set up with a new device in the basement.

[dault3883]

Is it really that good? I have a wheel but nowhere to mount it and whilst i can swing a full seat and rig, i cannot use that in the family room where the PS4 is and tbh don't want to set up with a new device in the basement.

also look at the playseat challenge it folds up

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[Alibi_GT]

Is it really that good? I have a wheel but nowhere to mount it and whilst i can swing a full seat and rig, i cannot use that in the family room where the PS4 is and tbh don't want to set up with a new device in the basement.

It's really good! Couple of friends got it (I've got a permanent rig) and I've also spend a couple of hours in the seat and it's very comfortable, sturdy and highly adjustable.

[Madhun67]

cool thing about this Playseat one ,that you can run over to friends for side by side sessions.He is 6'3" and fits him well

[dault3883]

cool thing about this Playseat one ,that you can run over to friends for side by side sessions.He is 6'3" and fits him well

i have an Open Wheeler rig but iv heard nothing but good stuff about the playseat challenge

[Alfisti]

I cannot sit all reclined like that, would drive me crazy.

[dault3883]

I cannot sit all reclined like that, would drive me crazy.

well than the TX would be the one for you i have this one241966

[Roger Prynne]

I cannot sit all reclined like that, would drive me crazy.

I have the Playseat Challenge as well and you don't have to sit reclined as it's very adjustable.
You can have it reclined for F1 style or more upright for tin tops.
Also it's very comfortable.

[dault3883]

this has probably been answered before but how do i put the skins on the customized car in PC2?

[F1_Racer68]

this has probably been answered before but how do i put the skins on the customized car in PC2?

Should be the same process as in pCARS1

<drive letter>:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Project CARS 2\Vehicles\Textures\CustomLiveries

[dault3883]

Should be the same process as in pCARS1

<drive letter>:\Program Files\Steam\steamapps\common\Project CARS 2\Vehicles\Textures\CustomLiveries

thanks i saved it on a word doc im always forgetting LOL

[Ravager619]

Is it really that good? I have a wheel but nowhere to mount it and whilst i can swing a full seat and rig, i cannot use that in the family room where the PS4 is and tbh don't want to set up with a new device in the basement.

I really love it. I just spent two hours straight practicing with the Ford Mustang RTR GT4 tonight at various tracks and I wasn't even tired afterward. It's also very adjustable, which is a huge bonus. I prefer to sit nearly straight up just like in my road car, and I can move the pedals closer to me by adjusting the position of the bumper bar at the far end of the stand. It's a very stable system and for $199.99 it's worth every penny.

FYI, I've also noticed my lap times have dropped since I don't have to worry about the wheel or pedals moving anymore.

[Invincible]

I have the Playseat Challenge as well and you don't have to sit reclined as it's very adjustable.
You can have it reclined for F1 style or more upright for tin tops.
Also it's very comfortable.

I can only agree on that. I also have the Playseat Challenge and can confirm, that it is comfortable and you can sit in it for a few hours without problems. My main pet peeves is, that I want to get a handbrake soon and don't know where to attach it.

[dault3883]

I can only agree on that. I also have the Playseat Challenge and can confirm, that it is comfortable and you can sit in it for a few hours without problems. My main pet peeves is, that I want to get a handbrake soon and don't know where to attach it.

I have that same problem with my Open Wheeler i know where i want to attach it just not how

[Roger Prynne]

There's all sorts of brackets on the internet, just do a bit of searching.

[Tank621]

There's all sorts of brackets on the internet, just do a bit of searching.

Yep there's round brackets ( ), there's square brackets [ ] and whatever these things are called { }

[JessicaWalter]

Yep there's the curvy brackets ( ), there's square brackets [ ] and whatever these things are called { }

curly brackets.

to add to the list, my favorite are angle brackets <>

[Raklodder]

I wish the AC and PCARS team would join up and make the greatest sim racer of all time.

[Civic]

I wish the AC and PCARS team would join up and make the greatest sim racer of all time.

What do you think Kunos would bring to the game?

I'm not a stranger to fantasies of team ups but I'm not really sure Kunos are doing anything significantly better while being really behind in other areas.

I'd love to see PC2 with online racing more like iRacing though and I'm sure some people might want AI to be more like "insert game", I was tempted to throw RF2 in there but seriously I've seen AI complained about in every game and comparisons are still made to GP4.

[amazed]

What do you think Kunos would bring to the game?

Rabid fanboys?

[Gloomy]

Just wanted to say thanks for the game, after 25 hours in I'm truly amazed.

I've barely scratched the surface, only racing in 3 different cars, but I've had so many brilliant experiences so far. I was a big fan of project cars 1 and this exceeds it in every way. This will be my racing game for a long time.

I love the weather transitions, and atmosphere of the tracks. The cars and tracks truly feel alive, not something I get in any other racing game. Seeing a puddle, hearing the splash and feeling the ffb slip as I hydroplane, the sun peeks through some clouds and blinds me all in vr, it feels like I'm really there. I can go on and on.

I'm not a hardcore enthusiastic of motorsports irl, I couldn't tell you how accurate or not any of the cars actually are, but I've been racing in games for over 30 years and this game feels special to me.

There's issues to be ironed out, and ai that needs alot of balancing, but I'm having a blast. I look forward to what this game will become in the coming months.

Sincerely a rabid project cars fanboy

[Ravager619]

I put in two more hours behind the wheel of the Mustang RTR GT4 tonight and I had a blast. One of the 10-minutes races I did was at Red Bull Ring National, and until tonight I forgot how much fun that track is. It was one of my favorites in GT6. I also managed to shave over a second off my TT time at the Daytona road course once I did a few setup tweaks I tested out at another track.

I really have to thank SMS for the setup layout screen. It's so much easier to read and understand compared to PC1, and I love how the tips on the right side and are easy to follow.

[LukeC]

Yep there's round brackets ( ), there's square brackets [ ] and whatever these things are called { }

Braces or Curly brackets or parentheses.

[Cheesenium]

What do you think Kunos would bring to the game?

I am not saying the vintage cars are awful to drive in Pcars 2 but I always felt Kunos did a better job with vintage cars. Also the slower cars such as RX7 or Skyline in AC. SMS on the other hand, they are far better with the GT, LMPs and all sorts of fast cars.

[Equation]

That feel, when you are doing rolling start.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrtl41oZxOA

[Civic]

I am not saying the vintage cars are awful to drive in Pcars 2 but I always felt Kunos did a better job with vintage cars. Also the slower cars such as RX7 or Skyline in AC. SMS on the other hand, they are far better with the GT, LMPs and all sorts of fast cars.

I have not messed with many vintage cars yet but I think the L49 is way better in PC1 than PC2. My biggest beef with that car is the lack of body roll, it just sits dead flat and is unbelievable. Surprisingly the tyres are also a big part of the disappointment, the L49 tyres are just far too modern in this game. That car now drives like the iRacing version did when iRacing destroyed it. In PC2 it drives nothing like any of the footage of the real car and nothing like any of the real life drivers descriptions of the car. It's just totally unconvincing and unbelievable and not fun at all for me.

The big part of the disappointment with the L49 tyres this time around is I thought the tyres were something they did really well on that car in PC1.

BUT

In contrast to the L49 I think the 1959 Aston Martin DBR1/300 is one of the most amazing sim driving experiences I have ever had. I love that car, I think a league based on that car would be awesome.

So based on just that car I don't agree with you.

But yes the RX7's in AC are right up there among my favourite cars if not my favourite cars in that sim.

[JanvH]

I have not messed with many vintage cars yet but I think the L49 is way better in PC1 than PC2. My biggest beef with that car is the lack of body roll, it just sits dead flat and is unbelievable. Surprisingly the tyres are also a big part of the disappointment, the L49 tyres are just far too modern in this game. That car now drives like the iRacing version did when iRacing destroyed it. In PC2 it drives nothing like any of the footage of the real car and nothing like any of the real life drivers descriptions of the car. It's just totally unconvincing and unbelievable and not fun at all for me.

The big part of the disappointment with the L49 tyres this time around is I thought the tyres were something they did really well on that car in PC1.

BUT

In contrast to the L49 I think the 1959 Aston Martin DBR1/300 is one of the most amazing sim driving experiences I have ever had. I love that car, I think a league based on that car would be awesome

The 60's Lotus imo are the weakest cars in the game right now. They have so much stability like they drive on rails and are glued the track. Oddly enough they are so safe to drive, you can slide them a bit but there is actually no way you lose the car. I obviously don't have any real life experience with them but there is no way they could behave like that. Feels like they have too much weight and to little power. Watching onboards from the L25 and L49 they seem to be more fragile and sensitive and have to be controlled and tamed by the driver. I hope the devs will look into that at some point, cause the tyre model is phenomenal for most of the cars but maybe there is something wrong with those specific tyre compounds.

[Tank621]

Did my first rallycross races today, damn that's fun

[dault3883]

Did my first rallycross races today, damn that's fun

i want to try it but im still trying to wrestle control of the Lambo Hurican ST so i can get my career started with it

[Konan]

Did my first rallycross races today, damn that's fun

Funny...so did i :cool:

[Tank621]

i want to try it but im still trying to wrestle control of the Lambo Hurican ST so i can get my career started with it

Haven't touched the Trofeo yet, the only GTs I've used so far are the Ginetta Jr and the ones in the factory drive for Ginetta

[dault3883]

Haven't touched the Trofeo yet, the only GTs I've used so far are the Ginetta Jr and the ones in the factory drive for Ginetta

im starting my career of in the Super Trofeo series so trying to get aclamated with the car but algrave is being stuborn

[mister dog]

im starting my career of in the Super Trofeo series so trying to get aclamated with the car but algrave is being stuborn
I have 3 careers running at the moment and the Super Trofeo is one of them, AI is quite hard to beat though and Algarve requires you to be awake with all those blind corners :p. My other 2 are the Ginetta junior and the new Mustang in the American GT4 series.

[dault3883]

I have 3 careers running at the moment and the Super Trofeo is one of them, AI is quite hard to beat though and Algarve requires you to be awake with all those blind corners :p. My other 2 are the Ginetta junior and the new Mustang in the American GT4 series.

yes and the lambo's A piller isnt helping much either but its getting there but i want to get to GT3 and when i raced GT4 first on PC1 i was bored it was like torture os ST it was

[mister dog]

yes and the lambo's A piller isnt helping much either but its getting there but i want to get to GT3 and when i raced GT4 first on PC1 i was bored it was like torture os ST it was
If you're on a single screen like me use helmet view, disable the helmet and turn look to apex up. It really aids for looking into those corners especially in cars with big A pillars. GT4 is a lot of fun, it's nice that you can chose between a EU and US series depending on what you have running in the other careers. I didn't really try the PC1 version much but I'm sure the improved physics and FFB matter a lot in every class you'd try.

[dault3883]

If you're on a single screen like me use helmet view, disable the helmet and turn look to apex up. It really aids for looking into those corners especially in cars with big A pillars. GT4 is a lot of fun, it's nice that you can chose between a EU and US series depending on what you have running in the other careers. I didn't really try the PC1 version much but I'm sure the improved physics and FFB matter a lot in every class you'd try.

my biggest problem right now is getting the braking right im going a little bit to deep into the corner before breaking and locking my fronts up it just needs some practice i got around watkins glen ok already havent tried road america yet but trying to get algrave first been doing it in testing mode

[mister dog]

my biggest problem right now is getting the braking right im going a little bit to deep into the corner before breaking and locking my fronts up it just needs some practice i got around watkins glen ok already havent tried road america yet but trying to get algrave first been doing it in testing mode
I lowered the brake pressure.

[dault3883]

I lowered the brake pressure.

i think my issue is just common user error and braking too late im man enough to admit LOL that im the problem not the way its set up because when i do brake right i have no lock up and make the corner LOL me and the car just need to "GEL"

[Samsara]

What do you guys think about the Nissan 280ZX IMSA? I haven't dug deep with tuning yet but I find that, while it can easily dust its competition on the straightaways, its pretty abysmal in the corners (compared to the other Gr. 5s). That, and it seems to overheat unless I leave the radiator on 100%. I really like the challenge it invites.

[bmanic]

I have a love/hate relationship with that one for sure. Probably more love than hate. :)

[Ravager619]

242406
I love the little details that are in this game, like when your car gets debris on it from several testing laps and the occasional foray into the sand.

[The gamer]

I think graphics is one of the major area PC2 need to improve (I am playing in PS4). A lot of bugs are there in case of shadows. There are some irritating graphics issues with the trees.
Also the physics in the bouncing of lightweight street furnitures are not good.

Hope the developers will address them well in the future patches

[Roger Prynne]

Have a look at some of the great videos from PS4 users and ask how they have good graphics.....
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?52639-Project-CARS-2-Videos

[Zenzic]

^ I really try to stay positive, but that's not really fair, Roger. You can't dismiss posts about bad graphics on PS4 (like mine here (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51892-Known-amp-Investigating-Please-improve-graphics-and-edge-smoothing&p=1388542&viewfull=1#post1388542)) just by pointing at some youtube clips. Of course it looks good at some points on track or in time, but at other points it's abysmal. Nurburgring Combined, full AI grid: the drop in graphics quality driving up to the Schumacher-/Audi-S is ridiculous. No amount of shiny clips can contradict what I experience first hand. I'm not in the know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the export function on PS4 or youtube itself add a bit of anti-aliasing to videos.

To compound the issue: lots of us try to optimize their setup by moving closer to the screen with their wheels. Anything less than HD-resolution looks quite bad from close up. As soon as an AI car comes into view you can see the details of the dash fade as resolution seems to drop, same thing happens when you switch HUD to telemetry view, which also seems to affect frame rate. And that's best case. Worst case there's multiple cars on screen at a particular section of track and everything looks quite ugly for a few seconds.

[m355y]

I don't have a great problem with PC2's visuals - they're not amazing, but graphics aren't top of my list really. They're at worst functional, at best pretty impressive. Racing at Le Mans into the night with rain/fog coming in, it's pretty good. The stutters, tearing etc can hopefully be dealt with in patches but they don't really spoil the core experience. Also worth saying that lots of games are compromising on graphics at the moment to concentrate on other areas - Forza 7 is noticebly graphically inferior to Forza 6 in places, for example.

But I do agree with the above post - that you can't just dismiss legitimate, constructively put concerns by saying basically "shut it - look at these videos"

[Zenzic]

Here (https://i.imgur.com/1vxBkpo.jpg)'s an example of what I mean. Make sure you look at the picture at 100% of its size. At this specific section of the track the graphics fidelity drops by a fair amount. Yes, you can still discern the car in front, but mainly because you know it's a car. Text on the instrument cluster becomes illegible. Having telemetry open compounds the issue. And as I said in my previous post this happens at other tracks too, to smaller and larger degrees. I'm loving the game, I'm able to look past a lot of issues I assume will be fixed down the line, but this is not an example of good graphics. Especially not if you're 50 cm from a 40" HD television.

[Roger Prynne]

^ I really try to stay positive, but that's not really fair, Roger. You can't dismiss posts about bad graphics on PS4 (like mine here (http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51892-Known-amp-Investigating-Please-improve-graphics-and-edge-smoothing&p=1388542&viewfull=1#post1388542)) just by pointing at some youtube clips. Of course it looks good at some points on track or in time, but at other points it's abysmal. Nurburgring Combined, full AI grid: the drop in graphics quality driving up to the Schumacher-/Audi-S is ridiculous. No amount of shiny clips can contradict what I experience first hand. I'm not in the know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the export function on PS4 or youtube itself add a bit of anti-aliasing to videos.

To compound the issue: lots of us try to optimize their setup by moving closer to the screen with their wheels. Anything less than HD-resolution looks quite bad from close up. As soon as an AI car comes into view you can see the details of the dash fade as resolution seems to drop, same thing happens when you switch HUD to telemetry view, which also seems to affect frame rate. And that's best case. Worst case there's multiple cars on screen at a particular section of track and everything looks quite ugly for a few seconds.

I was only trying to help buddy so you could maybe ask those guys about their visual settings to see if it would help you.

[Civic]

He's on PS4

[Roger Prynne]

Yeah I know, that's why I said look at the PS4 Videos.

[Zenzic]

I'm afraid the graphics options on PS4 are rather limited. Are you referring to the visual FX? I've tried multiple combinations of enabling/disabling effects to no avail, I'm afraid. My TV is set to display the image feed at 1:1 size and sharpness is set to 0 as it should be.

I'm not a specialist, but I don't think comparing youtube videos is the answer. Standard PS4 streams/exports at 720p. If you view the image I linked to in my previous post at half size it looks miles better. I expect downsizing 1080p to smaller sizes will have a beneficial effect as well, as will any AA that might be applied afterwards. And there's other issues to take into account: does the presence of AI on track outside of view influence graphics as opposed to running a time trial alone on track? Are multiplayer graphics comparable to single player?

Anyway, if anyone here on standard PS4 is under the impression the screenshot I posted above is not representative, please let me know. If this is merely some setting or an oversight on my part I'd be delighted.

[Olijke Poffer]

Your not alone m8. I’ve said the same several times. Bad AA etc.. I’m on a ps4 pro and this should give better GFX then the case is now. PC1 looks a lot better atm...

[Tank621]

Uhm my career mode got deleted somehow, the game got stuck on a loading screen after a race so I closed the game and when I reopened it my only career option was 'New Driver'. (This was Xbox btw)

Seeing as that has happened I may as well ask for funny names for my new driver. I'm thinking Dick Trickle or Humpy Wheeler or maybe I should go for a confusing name like Matt DiBenedetto

[dault3883]

Uhm my career mode got deleted somehow, the game got stuck on a loading screen after a race so I closed the game and when I reopened it my only career option was 'New Driver'. (This was Xbox btw)

Seeing as that has happened I may as well ask for funny names for my new driver. I'm thinking Dick Trickle or Humpy Wheeler or maybe I should go for a confusing name like Matt DiBenedetto

so your only looking at nascar names lol why not Cole Trickle or Ricky Bobby (If your not first your last LOL) or even Stroker ace

[F1_Racer68]

Uhm my career mode got deleted somehow, the game got stuck on a loading screen after a race so I closed the game and when I reopened it my only career option was 'New Driver'. (This was Xbox btw)

Seeing as that has happened I may as well ask for funny names for my new driver. I'm thinking Dick Trickle or Humpy Wheeler or maybe I should go for a confusing name like Matt DiBenedetto

Will Power..... Lake Speed..... Scott Speed....... Assuming you want to stick with real names that is......

[dault3883]

Will Power..... Lake Speed..... Scott Speed....... Assuming you want to stick with real names that is......

Dario Franchitti...Scott Dixon.....Dan Wheldon....Tony Kanaan

[F1_Racer68]

Dario Franchitti...Scott Dixon.....Dan Wheldon....Tony Kanaan

He was looking for "funny names" though. So ones that could sound like, or.mean something else. Dick Trickle and Will Power being the 2 that have the most double meaning....

[bporion]

Dick Trickle ! PRICELESS !

[Stinger061]

Just want to get out some frustrations that I'm sure have been mentioned elsewhere but I've just come off a session where I've had some problems.

Overall I'm really enjoying the driving experience. Time Trials and Private tests have been fairly enjoyable despite the well documented issues with setups that I've generally been able to work around. The issues I'm having is when it comes to racing. I've spent a lot of time messing with settings to try and find the right AI level for an enjoyable race and have finally settled on a point where my lap times put me around 5th-10th on the grid which I'm happy with. Once the racing starts however I regularly find myself restarting due to being punted by the AI in braking zones. As far as I can tell I'm not braking early compared to those ahead of me and it wouldn't bother me if the AI was just quicker in those spots and went down the inside but more often than not it seems ramming me is their preferred option.

Once I dig myself back out of the sand/wall I see myself setting lap times which would again put me in a competitive position but by that time I'm so far back it doesn't matter. I want to run longer races wher I feel it would become less of a problem as the field spread out but right now I can barely ever get past more than a couple of laps without finding myself at the back of the pack.

Again the driving experience has been great but these issues with racing in the middle of the field is proving frustrating and has me leaving each play session disappointed.

[F1_Racer68]

Lookie what I spotted.....

Take a close look about halfway through the list. There are a number of Project CARS logoed vehicles in the list.

https://lamleygroup.com/2017/10/08/the-hot-wheels-2018-sneaks-presentation-in-photos/

[breyzipp]

Lookie what I spotted.....

Take a close look about halfway through the list. There are a number of Project CARS logoed vehicles in the list.

https://lamleygroup.com/2017/10/08/the-hot-wheels-2018-sneaks-presentation-in-photos/

Combine that with the Hot Wheels advertising boards on COTA.... hmm do we have a plot? :)

Let's just hope they are not going to add silly HW cars in PCARS 2 like was done with FM6 & FH3. Or worse, HW tracks (even though with the PCARS 2 physics engine that would be a funny one to try... for a few hours)

[Kebabfelix]

Playerbase is getting real low now, same as Assetto Corsa right now.

:( Really wanted 50k players every night, god damn it. Get your friends to buy this game!!

[dault3883]

Combine that with the Hot Wheels advertising boards on COTA.... hmm do we have a plot? :)

Let's just hope they are not going to add silly HW cars in PCARS 2 like was done with FM6 & FH3. Or worse, HW tracks (even though with the PCARS 2 physics engine that would be a funny one to try... for a few hours)

not to mention the hot wheels liveries in game

and i would love to have my hand at some hot wheels tracks LOL last good hot wheels game was for ps2 Hot wheels world race

[dault3883]

Playerbase is getting real low now, same as Assetto Corsa right now.

:( Really wanted 50k players every night, god damn it. Get your friends to buy this game!!

its not that people arent buying the game its people are waiting for the next patch

[Cheesenium]

Combine that with the Hot Wheels advertising boards on COTA.... hmm do we have a plot? :)

Let's just hope they are not going to add silly HW cars in PCARS 2 like was done with FM6 & FH3. Or worse, HW tracks (even though with the PCARS 2 physics engine that would be a funny one to try... for a few hours)

I am kinda mixed with this as those silly HW cars in FH3 were actually real custom made cars. Essentially a really ugly version of the SVA lancer with a lot less performance.

I do crucious how would Twin Mill drives in Pcars as it has 2 separate engine.

Ideally, I also won't want this kind of stuff in the game.

[dault3883]

I am kinda mixed with this as those silly HW cars in FH3 were actually real custom made cars. Essentially a really ugly version of the SVA lancer with a lot less performance.

I do crucious how would Twin Mill drives in Pcars as it has 2 separate engine.

Ideally, I also won't want this kind of stuff in the game.

techically there has been three twin mills but the first one is the only one they built a full size version of

Sorry im a hot wheels enthusiest been litterally collecting since before i was born via my dad LOL well over 300 in my collection

242484

[Civic]

Playerbase is getting real low now, same as Assetto Corsa right now.

:( Really wanted 50k players every night, god damn it. Get your friends to buy this game!!

That right there is my biggest complaint in regards to the release of this game. Anyone can say what they will about how this is the new norm but it kills gaming communities and it kills games.

The damage is done now. Many people who have tried it and given up will never come back. If they waited to release it until after it was right, then even if everyone was already playing Forza and GTS when people heard about this new ultimate sim with weather and realistic tyres and real transitions instead of racing for an hour at dusk or dawn with a sun that doesn't move... everyone would try it and come over to it. People will still play both games but PCARS2 would be very popular. That will never happen now. PC2 should have been the future of online racing, now it will never realise its potential and I'll always be upset that is was released like this and that stupid developers haven't learned from every game that has done this and effectively become still born.

After they actually fix this game that will be the next thing I'll want to see from SMS. I'll want to see if they try to make it right, I'll want to see if they try to do anything different or special to try and bring back the players that they would have had if they didn't botch the release. But they'll need to do more than fix it first now because of the way people think. Now not only will they need to fix the bugs but they will also have to fix the complaints if they ever want to have a chance at bringing people back. Because if they had delivered a game without issues people wouldn't have abandoned it when it over design choices but now that people have abandoned it they will use those arguments not to give it another chance.

It's like if someone told an iRacing hater that iRacing was now awesome and cars no longer has seesaw physics, they might say something like "does it still have autoclutch? Yeah that's not realistic, lat me know when they fix that". People will do the same now with PC2 and here are few of the defences against ever giving it a chance that I'd expect.

Can you reconnect to a race from the pits if you are disconnected?
Are the filters still crap?
Does TT still force you to share your setup?

And that is the problem they now face, to get anyone back to give it another chance they will also need to fix the things those people didn't like about the game as well as the issues.

[Konan]

and that stupid developers haven't learned from every game that has done this and effectively become still born.

You really want to go that road?

[Civic]

You really want to go that road?

That isn't primarily directed at SMS, I was actually thinking of a much bigger company that is well documented for one of the worst releases ever when I said that. But generally speaking I think it is stupid for any developer to release games that are broken with the argument that this is now normal. Perhaps that word will be taken differently to how I intend but to soften the blow what I'm saying is it is ignorant not to understand how this negatively effects the online community for that game in a way that most if not all never recover from.

[Konan]

That isn't primarily directed at SMS, I was actually thinking of a much bigger company that is well documented for one of the worst releases ever when I said that. But generally speaking I think it is stupid for any developer to release games that are broken with the argument that this is now normal. Perhaps that word will be taken differently to how I intend but to soften the blow what I'm saying is it is ignorant not to understand how this negatively effects the online community for that game in a way that most if not all never recover from.

Only future will tell...
BTW...where did you get the notion that a patch will roll out tomorrow?

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?54943-Patch-Thread&p=1390588&viewfull=1#post1390588

[riverreveal]

I'll always be upset that is was released like this and that stupid developers haven't learned from every game that has done this and effectively become still born.


Wow, on so many levels. Did you even read that back? I hope you are Ok because it sounds like your issues lie far beyond a £40 car racing sim.

[honespc]

That right there is my biggest complaint in regards to the release of this game. Anyone can say what they will about how this is the new norm but it kills gaming communities and it kills games..Absolutely. Releasing games working under such acceptable status kills the online community, just like it harms the reputation of the game.

Take the Driveclub for instance, which could very well have become the next greatest arcade racing series after Project Gotham. Never recovered from the initial impact despite fixing the game later.

Same happened to pc1 anyway. Great game released too in an unbearable working status, whose community went down to very low percentages after two months of life. Fixing the game many months later didn't bring players back either.

Then they come and tell <<you the you don't know how development works; the retailers; the distributors, the blahblah etc blahblah you know nothing about anything blah blah BLAH!>>, usual lecture!. Ok apologizers. Look at Blizzard, Rockstar, cloud imperium games, and a large etc of others.

I wanted pc2 community to be so big..., and here we are again, with numbers going down just as quickly as they did in pc1. Great.

[Civic]

Only future will tell...
BTW...where did you get the notion that a patch will roll out tomorrow?

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?54943-Patch-Thread&p=1390588&viewfull=1#post1390588

Remember that context thing we were talking about yesterday?

It's a movement I'm starting stemming based on mind hacks or the power of positive thinking.

Earlier I said that if we think positive thoughts it will happen so rather than think logically that we probably wont see a patch for between a week and a month I suggested people should start thinking positive and mind hack the patch out sooner.

People decided the patch will be out tomorrow. Good thing my Dad isn't around to say "tomorrow never comes".

If for some reason not enough people were thinking hard enough that it will come out tomorrow then tomorrow we must work harder to get more people onboard to say it will come out tomorrow. I understand if you are not able to get on this train but by becoming a mod you gave up your right to enjoy the forum so tough luck ;P I say that in a cheeky lighthearted way as a former moderator and administrator of forums that I gave up so i could go back to having fun on forums instead of working on them.

[Sankyo]

Remember that context thing we were talking about yesterday?

It's a movement I'm starting stemming based on mind hacks or the power of positive thinking.

Earlier I said that if we think positive thoughts it will happen so rather than think logically that we probably wont see a patch for between a week and a month I suggested people should start thinking positive and mind hack the patch out sooner.

People decided the patch will be out tomorrow. Good thing my Dad isn't around to say "tomorrow never comes".

If for some reason not enough people were thinking hard enough that it will come out tomorrow then tomorrow we must work harder to get more people onboard to say it will come out tomorrow. I understand if you are not able to get on this train but by becoming a mod you gave up your right to enjoy the forum so tough luck ;P I say that in a cheeky lighthearted way as a former moderator and administrator of forums that I gave up so i could go back to having fun on forums instead of working on them.
I do both, I moderate under my own account and when I want to have some fun I log in as 'Ian Bell' :p

[Konan]

but by becoming a mod you gave up your right to enjoy the forum so tough luck ;P

Oh i'm still having fun...if that would stop,i would quit altogether...:cool:

[Tank621]

Oh i'm still having fun...if that would stop,i would quit altogether...:cool:

Yeah and someone needs to stop me from derailing every thread I post in Hahah

[Civic]

Wow, on so many levels. Did you even read that back? I hope you are Ok because it sounds like your issues lie far beyond a £40 car racing sim.

Perhaps you are new to gaming or the world. It would be too hard to try and explain this concept and I couldn't be bothered but if you care to try and understand go and watch some Youtube commentaries on gaming history and see how passionate gamers are upset over the failure of certain games and even development houses over decisions and mistakes they made.

Even on this gen of consoles there have been some very notable failures resulting in many Youtube videos documenting them. Most of them could have been easily avoided. The biggest failures are always those that should have been epic but failed because of something avoidable. Everyone who actually likes those games or the potential those had remains upset they never revealed their potential so I would hope that any reasonable thinking person could understand that in order to always be upset requires a certain level of admiration or love or respect to exist.

Unfortunately due to the way you responded to me I don't expect that you'll understand any of what I'm saying. That's fine, join the line of people who don't like the way I think, it's a short line but those in it have never felt the need to refrain from letting me know how broken they think my brain is. BTW like most people I do have issues, one of them is the way my awesome family and I acknowledge them and are comfortable with them so life is pretty awesome. I would hate to be a person who pretends I don't have issues and go around telling people I think they have issues.

[Civic]

BTW Mods your posts above mine made me smile but I can't like them to let you know.

[pkcraistlin]

this did make me lol! sooks about being told they don't understand the realities of game development, then references blizzard as if blizzard are representative of the typical market position of developers/publishers as a whole :biggrin-new: then, to add to the hilarity, points to a company which raised over $140M in funding for their title.

i daresay someone actually doesn't know how development works, haha.



Then they come and tell <<you the you don't know how development works; the retailers; the distributors, the blahblah etc blahblah you know nothing about anything blah blah BLAH!>>, usual lecture!. Ok apologizers. Look at Blizzard, Rockstar, cloud imperium games, and a large etc of others.

[riverreveal]

Perhaps you are new to gaming or the world. It would be too hard to try and explain this concept and I couldn't be bothered but if you care to try and understand go and watch some Youtube commentaries on gaming history and see how passionate gamers are upset over the failure of certain games and even development houses over decisions and mistakes they made.

Even on this gen of consoles there have been some very notable failures resulting in many Youtube videos documenting them. Most of them could have been easily avoided. The biggest failures are always those that should have been epic but failed because of something avoidable. Everyone who actually likes those games or the potential those had remains upset they never revealed their potential so I would hope that any reasonable thinking person could understand that in order to always be upset requires a certain level of admiration or love or respect to exist.

Unfortunately due to the way you responded to me I don't expect that you'll understand any of what I'm saying. That's fine, join the line of people who don't like the way I think, it's a short line but those in it have never felt the need to refrain from letting me know how broken they think my brain is. BTW like most people I do have issues, one of them is the way my awesome family and I acknowledge them and are comfortable with them so life is pretty awesome. I would hate to be a person who pretends I don't have issues and go around telling people I think they have issues.

I didnt highlight the content of what your issues were, lots of people have brought up issues in a sensible, grown up, constructive manner. I highlighted your choice of wording. Calling developers stupid, saying you will always be upset, calling a game release stillborn.... in pretty much one sentence....

You speak about love, I hope Ian Bell doesnt have a rabbit...

[torsteinvh]

Earlier I said that if we think positive thoughts it will happen so rather than think logically that we probably wont see a patch for between a week and a month I suggested people should start thinking positive and mind hack the patch out sooner.
Hey, it worked ;)

[F1_Racer68]

And lookie what dropped at 6:45AM EDT today. All 3.6 GB of it ;)

http://steamcommunity.com/games/378860/announcements/detail/1465218389869395311

[Civic]

Hey, it worked ;)

It always works ;) There are not many people in my church yet but in time you will all see the light, we are living in a sim and all of us can influence the code. I call my church/religion Sim'ple.

[Tank621]

Does anyone else find the spotter calls slightly too slow? I sometimes feel like I'm hearing 'clear' by the time I can see the other car in the rear view mirror or 'two wide' when the other car has it's nose ahead of mine. It's not too big a problem but if it was slightly quicker that would improve it's effectiveness quite a bit I think

[Konan]

...drive slower...:p

[seb02]

I have a question about the time trial rankings. I am very surprised to see no time on the Ford Fusion on Daytona, Texas or Indianapolis. Is this normal?

[RoccoTTS]

Does anyone else find the spotter calls slightly too slow? I sometimes feel like I'm hearing 'clear' by the time I can see the other car in the rear view mirror or 'two wide' when the other car has it's nose ahead of mine. It's not too big a problem but if it was slightly quicker that would improve it's effectiveness quite a bit I think

Yes i agree, that's the reason i use the crewchief app, much better.

[Civic]

That's not something console user can use is it?

[Khyber GT]

That's not something console user can use is it?

yes you can. the crew chief app uses udp port for consoles

[rich1e I]

No UDP for consoles in PC2. Spotter is ok though

[jimortality]

Does anyone else find the spotter calls slightly too slow? I sometimes feel like I'm hearing 'clear' by the time I can see the other car in the rear view mirror or 'two wide' when the other car has it's nose ahead of mine. It's not too big a problem but if it was slightly quicker that would improve it's effectiveness quite a bit I think

Or use crew chief If you're on PC

[RoccoTTS]

I already used crewchief app with PC1 on xbox one.

[Roger Prynne]

No UDP for consoles in PC2. Spotter is ok though

There will be when you get your patch.

[rich1e I]

There will be when you get your patch.

Really? Thank you for giving me these awesome news! Can't wait, although I think the spotter is fine. Haven't noticed delays in his callouts or whatsoever, but crew chief gives you a whole lot more information. Hurry up Microsoft!

[jimortality]

What is UDP? sounds like one of the paramilitary groups over here in Belfast lol

[rich1e I]

What is UDP? sounds like one of the paramilitary groups over here in Belfast lol

Lol UDP means 'User Datagram Protocol' which allows apps for instance to read telemetry data

[Civic]

yes you can. the crew chief app uses udp port for consoles

Isn't crew chief a PC app? Or is it available on mobile?

[F1_Racer68]

Isn't crew chief a PC app? Or is it available on mobile?

Also available on Android.

No iOS version though.

But if you are racing on console and have even just a small netbook you can run the PC version on the netbook. UDP is UDP, so source device and destination device doesn't matter. Race on PS4/XBOX and have CrewChief running on a PC.

[jimortality]

Lol UDP means 'User Datagram Protocol' which allows apps for instance to read telemetry data

Cheers, what number should it be set on?

[Roger Prynne]

What is UDP? sounds like one of the paramilitary groups over here in Belfast lol


Isn't crew chief a PC app? Or is it available on mobile?


Cheers, what number should it be set on?

Check out these threads...... http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/forumdisplay.php?136-Third-Party-Apps-amp-API-Discussion

[jimortality]

Check out these threads...... http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/forumdisplay.php?136-Third-Party-Apps-amp-API-Discussion

Unfortunately, that is just gobble de gook to me

[Roger Prynne]

It was just to show you the apps that you can use with UDP.

[jimortality]

It was just to show you the apps that you can use with UDP.

Yes thankyou

[Mad Al]

Cheers, what number should it be set on?

At the biggest number that gives a decent data rate for the app you are using.. if you are on fully wired network it shouldn't matter, but some routers really hate the broadcast and tend to crap on the WiFi network (hence the lowest rate comment)

[jimortality]

At the biggest number that gives a decent data rate for the app you are using.. if you are on fully wired network it shouldn't matter, but some routers really hate the broadcast and tend to crap on the WiFi network (hence the lowest rate comment)

Yes I'm fully wired

[Roger Prynne]

^ That's not what I heard :biggrin-new:

[jimortality]

^ That's not what I heard :biggrin-new:

Ha! who told you :p

[Ravager619]

242727

I just wanted to say thanks for making nighttime really look like nighttime in this game. In PC1, 11pm always looked like it was just after sunset. I loved how dark the backstretch was in Nurburgring Sprint when I ran it for the first time last night.

[peterCars]

driving open wheelers, I cannot get to see any of my car, especially the rear tyres making adjustments in the cockpit. Is this like Webber said about Vettell in F1 at Singapore this year, that he thinks his car ends at the back of his helmet, or is it some Dracula-mirror thing... anyone get to see theirs at all?

[Racefancy]

Couldn't find anywhere else to post this but related to the Ligier LMP3. I notice there's no option to add bump rubbers to the front 3rd but it's not greyed out as if you should be able to, it's just stuck at 0mm. Also with the rear 3rd there's no option to run without the spring as there should be (should be able to run no spring and only bump rubbers). Any chance this can go into the pile for a future patch?

[Tank621]

I don't know if we want to amke a seperate thread for this but this is THE INSIDER'S GUIDE - EPISODE 1: IN-GAME ASSISTS

https://www.projectcarsgame.com/the-insiders-guide-episode-1.html?lang=en

[John Hargreaves]

driving open wheelers, I cannot get to see any of my car, especially the rear tyres making adjustments in the cockpit. Is this like Webber said about Vettell in F1 at Singapore this year, that he thinks his car ends at the back of his helmet, or is it some Dracula-mirror thing... anyone get to see theirs at all?

I think it's one of the things SMS had to do to optimise the game and keep framerates up. If you draw the car in all the mirrors, that's quite a bit more to draw as each has a different viewpoint. Due to the sheer amount of physics calculations going on, there wasn't enough processing power left over to draw everything. Blame Intel and Nvidia for not developing chips as fast as they used to before they had the market sewn up :rolleyes:

[peterCars]

I think it's one of the things SMS had to do to optimise the game and keep framerates up. If you draw the car in all the mirrors, that's quite a bit more to draw as each has a different viewpoint. Due to the sheer amount of physics calculations going on, there wasn't enough processing power left over to draw everything. Blame Intel and Nvidia for not developing chips as fast as they used to before they had the market sewn up :rolleyes:

thanks for that explanation, though I would have thought we would be given the option to have it or not. I would rather tone down track details and be able to see the rear tyres smoking or locking up.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

I know this is only a very minor thing, but it's just really confusing and bugging me. Why is there such a difference between the colour shades of decals on some cars when you view them in the Showroom vs. what the actually look like on track in-game? Here's an example with the Audi R8 LMS GT3 (this applies to the Endurance version too):

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As you can see, in the Showroom screenshot (the 1st one), the part(s) of the decal that are meant to be red for some reason are pink, and the silver sections are almost non visible. Compare this to the second screenshot, where all the colours on the decal are all the correct shades.

[Azure Flare]

Studio lighting. There is a livery for the ATS-V.R that has chrome on the fenders, but you wouldn't see in the Showroom.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

Studio lighting. There is a livery for the ATS-V.R that has chrome on the fenders, but you wouldn't see in the Showroom.

I understand the lighting in the Showroom might have SOME effect on particular colours of decals, I just don’t see why whatever amount of light there is in the Showroom, would alter the colours of decals so much as it did in my example.

[mister dog]

Yeah I haven't seen red changing into pink due to it being lighted neither.

Question; I'm practicing a bit with a particular combo and I wanted to check the best time I set with that car at that given circuit, but I wasn't able to find it. Checked the 'stats' section but to no avail.

Does PC2 have this feature? AC does and it's quite handy if you want to quickly remember which times you were setting in any given car. I'm not talking about TT because I know it is registered there, just the overall times you have set with a car in any given mode.

[Mahjik]

Nope. You need to use an external profiling app.

[mister dog]

Nope. You need to use an external profiling app.
Shame, would be nice to put that on the list for PC3 ;)

Is there an app that tracks all your times? Haven't tried one yet.

[Fanapryde]

Shame, would be nice to put that on the list for PC3 ;)

Is there an app that tracks all your times? Haven't tried one yet.
RS dash (Android, iOS or Windows version) keeps your personal best times (and shows a lot of other stuff so you can keep your screen "clean"). But unlike Content Manager (AC app) you can not generate a list. You need to take the car on track and then you get to see your PB for that combo in the timing sheet.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

Yeah I haven't seen red changing into pink due to it being lighted neither.

Question; I'm practicing a bit with a particular combo and I wanted to check the best time I set with that car at that given circuit, but I wasn't able to find it. Checked the 'stats' section but to no avail.

Does PC2 have this feature? AC does and it's quite handy if you want to quickly remember which times you were setting in any given car. I'm not talking about TT because I know it is registered there, just the overall times you have set with a car in any given mode.

Wait, so when YOU view cars in the Showroom, the colours all look like they’re meant to? They don’t look like that first screenshot in my last post?

[mister dog]

Wait, so when YOU view cars in the Showroom, the colours all look like they’re meant to? They don’t look like that first screenshot in my last post?
I think you misunderstood my post there. I was replying to Azure saying lighting doesn't change red into pink, so basically agreeing with you.

[Konan]

I think you misunderstood my post there. I was replying to Azure saying lighting doesn't change red into pink, so basically agreeing with you.

The sun does though...:p

[mister dog]

The sun does though...:p
Yeah true! I see many cars that turned pink over the years by standing in the sun. Anyhow not the case in our fancy indoor showroom with artificial lighting :)!

[Konan]

Yeah true! I see many cars that turned pink over the years by standing in the sun. Anyhow not the case in our fancy indoor showroom with artificial lighting :)!

Those cars do come out in the sun though...but i agree...:cool:

[mister dog]

Those cars do come out in the sun though...but i agree...:cool:
Talking about the elements here's another nice idea for PC3; accumulating dirt and an animated carwash feature.
A subtle tribute to how Gran Turismo once was :(.

[Zenzic]

There's no currency in PCars though. We'll have to be creative when it comes to paying the lady behind the counter of the carwash.

[mister dog]

There's no currency in PCars though. We'll have to be creative when it comes to paying the lady behind the counter of the carwash.
Sim racing stars get it for free :yes:

[Konan]

besides....i'm sure the guy dropping the wheelnut all the time in Pcars1 will be happy to be employed again...LOL

[ProjectCARSFiend]

The sun does though...:p

Right, sorry. Hopefully they get it fixed then soon.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

Just wanted to ask, with the cars that have spoilers that raise up at a certain speed (Ford GT, Porsche 918, McLaren P1 etc.), would it be possible to make it that, when you are station-less or going below the speed of when the spoiler activates , it remains down, until you get up to the required speed?

[F1_Racer68]

Just wanted to ask, with the cars that have spoilers that raise up at a certain speed (Ford GT, Porsche 918, McLaren P1 etc.), would it be possible to make it that, when you are station-less or going below the speed of when the spoiler activates , it remains down, until you get up to the required speed?

Those cars are all set in "track mode" in game. For most of them (in real life) that means the rear wing is in a fixed, deployed position. So what the game has given us is accurate to real world.

[ooLaHop]

I just raced in a Ferrari through Bannochbrae WOW WOW WOW!!!! I love it. The landscape is so great, even the cows 🐄🐂 & the birds flying. PC2 is really the best looking racing game I know. Do you have more road races in Italy, France… like this in stock?? Keep going guys 🚗🏎🚙

[ooLaHop]

OMG I just discovered Côte d'Azur road, pretty neat as it is for real and pretty tough, I almost killed myself like Princess Grace :cool:

[Tank621]

OMG I just discovered Côte d'Azur road, pretty neat as it is for real and pretty tough, I almost killed myself like Princess Grace :cool:

Tried California Highway yet?

[ooLaHop]

Not there yet but I did this one for real a long time ago when I was a student at San Francisco Art Institute, I can't wait to drive on it in the game to get the memory back.

[Fanapryde]

I just raced in a Ferrari through Bannochbrae WOW WOW WOW!!!! I love it. The landscape is so great, even the cows ���� & the birds flying.

:confused:
You are on PS4 right ? Do you actually get to see cows, sheep and people at Bannochbrae ?
I have the PC version and there is nothing to see (as opposed to pCars1). I tried all settings, normally all on ultra or high: nothing.
I even started a topic about it. Not going to repeat all of it, but you can read it here:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?54583-Bannochbrae-(e-g-)-graphics-issues-and-other-remarks

Reading your comment, I just checked again (thinking there had been a patch) but no, no life on track... (except for a flock of birds).

[Cholton82]

Does anyone else find the Ai a little stale ? Firstly let me say that I've just had a brilliant race at Catalunya in the Porsche GT3 , Starting 4th and finishing in 2nd I followed the 488 GT3 for 30 minutes and couldn't make a pass but I could draw the rear end from memory it was great .
One thing I've noticed though throughout the GT3 seasons so far and I have done 3 full ones so far is that I haven't seen one Ai mistake , I'm sure they did before with lock ups etc , is this sensitive to the aggression setting ? My settings are 80 skill and 80 aggression .
If you are seeing mistakes what are your settings ?

[TerminatorGR]

Does anyone else find the Ai a little stale ? Firstly let me say that I've just had a brilliant race at Catalunya in the Porsche GT3 , Starting 4th and finishing in 2nd I followed the 488 GT3 for 30 minutes and couldn't make a pass but I could draw the rear end from memory it was great .
One thing I've noticed though throughout the GT3 seasons so far and I have done 3 full ones so far is that I haven't seen one Ai mistake , I'm sure they did before with lock ups etc , is this sensitive to the aggression setting ? My settings are 80 skill and 80 aggression .
If you are seeing mistakes what are your settings ?GT3 Red Bull Ring, I have seen them make mistakes in the first lap.

[Fanapryde]

@ooLaHop
a reply to my question (post #1192) would be great...

Anyone else sees cattle and people at Bannochbrae ?

[ooLaHop]

:confused:
You are on PS4 right ? Do you actually get to see cows, sheep and people at Bannochbrae ?
I have the PC version and there is nothing to see (as opposed to pCars1). I tried all settings, normally all on ultra or high: nothing.
I even started a topic about it. Not going to repeat all of it, but you can read it here:

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?54583-Bannochbrae-(e-g-)-graphics-issues-and-other-remarks

Reading your comment, I just checked again (thinking there had been a patch) but no, no life on track... (except for a flock of birds).

Oops sorry @Fanapryde, I wasn't notified for your post, Yes I'm on PS4

[sambat29]

@ooLaHop
a reply to my question (post #1192) would be great...

Anyone else sees cattle and people at Bannochbrae ?

If you are in free practice, you have neither spectators nor cows nor sheep, you have to race to get them.

[Raklodder]

I noticed the 30 day review score took a dump at 62% on Steam, but I think people will put down their pitchforks once v1.3 patch has been released.

My game review may be negative, but I would still rate the game at 7 out of 10 and wouldn't hesitate to give it an 8 once the bed bugs are gone.

[Keena]

Talking of which... any whispers on the wind of that which must not be named?

[Fanapryde]

If you are in free practice, you have neither spectators nor cows nor sheep, you have to race to get them.
Ow, thanks, I'll check that.

Cruising around, enjoying the surroundings: no life.
While racing and not much time to look around, all is there.
:confused:

Seems to be a weird decision. Performance wise, in free practice FPS would be higher than in a race with other cars. I'd think the other way around would make more sense.

EDIT: Checked it. You are right.
Still don't get the reason for this design decision though.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

Studio lighting. There is a livery for the ATS-V.R that has chrome on the fenders, but you wouldn't see in the Showroom.

Wait, so it's meant to be like that? Are you sure?

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

Studio lighting. There is a livery for the ATS-V.R that has chrome on the fenders, but you wouldn't see in the Showroom.

That seems to be a seperate bug with chrome. See the Caterham Seven 620R chrome livery in showroom too.


Wait, so when YOU view cars in the Showroom, the colours all look like they’re meant to? They don’t look like that first screenshot in my last post?


Wait, so it's meant to be like that? Are you sure?

If you're using the take picture button don't bother. I get better results every single time by pressing the share /screenshot button. The take picture function in game adds some sort of auto contrast which mucks up the colours (which can happen with real cameras too). Avoid the in game take picture button at all costs.

That is the reason for your colour discrepancy. Follow the capture mode I've outlined above and the colours should match (until you play around with filters and contrast etc).

[rosko]

Yeah I haven't seen red changing into pink due to it being lighted neither.

Question; I'm practicing a bit with a particular combo and I wanted to check the best time I set with that car at that given circuit, but I wasn't able to find it. Checked the 'stats' section but to no avail.

Does PC2 have this feature? AC does and it's quite handy if you want to quickly remember which times you were setting in any given car. I'm not talking about TT because I know it is registered there, just the overall times you have set with a car in any given mode.

Yes really frustrating they have not added this important feature in game & i'm still having to use a damn pen & paper.

[Fanapryde]

Yes really frustrating they have not added this important feature in game & i'm still having to use a damn pen & paper.
Agree with you guys, I simply don't get why this has not been implemented (yet). People were asking for it since pCars1

[Konan]

people were asking for a lot since PC1 and a lot is what they got...
i can imagine though it being a PITA...

[hkraft300]

people were asking for a lot since PC1 and a lot is what they got...
i can imagine though it being a PITA...

They’re chipping away at it.
“Vehicle records.” :)

Slowly, but surely.

[Pteradon]

people were asking for a lot since PC1 and a lot is what they got......

I thought that they were only asking for a good solid racing-sim and at this moment .....:rolleyes:

[mister dog]

people were asking for a lot since PC1 and a lot is what they got...
i can imagine though it being a PITA...
Another first world problem.

Just something else that would enhance the 'my profile' section of the menu. And very very useful for people who are into tuning. Tuning works great in this game IMO.

[Killerwinks007]

Does the cockpit view paddle shifter animation move during gear changes? I see the fingers moving but does the actual paddle move or animate?

[Zednix]

I'm having troubles dialing in good controller settings(xbox one controller) and I am hoping someone can point me to some threads that have some settings that work. I have been dabbling a bit in Formula Rookie and some times I do ok but on tracks like Catalunya I am barely able to complete a lap.

I am so frustrated with the controller that I am researching a racing wheel. Not sure how far in price I want to go, considering Thrustmaster TMX and TX mostly. Any thoughts on those or other recommendations would be great.

[morpwr]

I'm having troubles dialing in good controller settings(xbox one controller) and I am hoping someone can point me to some threads that have some settings that work. I have been dabbling a bit in Formula Rookie and some times I do ok but on tracks like Catalunya I am barely able to complete a lap.

I am so frustrated with the controller that I am researching a racing wheel. Not sure how far in price I want to go, considering Thrustmaster TMX and TX mostly. Any thoughts on those or other recommendations would be great.

You wont regret buying a wheel and it will change the game for you. The only recommendation I can make is buy the BEST wheel you can afford. Otherwise youll buy a wheel and just end up getting a better one as soon as you realize how good a wheel is. The new thrustmaster wheels are nice and a full size wheel makes a big difference. So if you can swing it get a better wheel upfront that way you don't end up stockpiling them like many of us. Definitely cant go wrong with the fanatec stuff either. They have some really nice pedals compared to the thrustmaster stuff.

[GTsimms]

Well not to say Fanatec doesn't have issues. But, if you can afford it. It's worth the money! I am looking at getting a DD early next year. So weighing my options here!

[Redadeg]

Is it with random weather really possible that it snows in Laguna Seca in August?

[ProjectCARSFiend]

That seems to be a seperate bug with chrome. See the Caterham Seven 620R chrome livery in showroom too.





If you're using the take picture button don't bother. I get better results every single time by pressing the share /screenshot button. The take picture function in game adds some sort of auto contrast which mucks up the colours (which can happen with real cameras too). Avoid the in game take picture button at all costs.

That is the reason for your colour discrepancy. Follow the capture mode I've outlined above and the colours should match (until you play around with filters and contrast etc).

But why do the colours (or the shades anyway), still look off when you just view cars in the Showroom WITHOUT being in Photo Mode? Shouldn’t the colours be correct then since that weird auto contrast thing can’t apply?

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

I know this is only a very minor thing, but it's just really confusing and bugging me. Why is there such a difference between the colour shades of decals on some cars when you view them in the Showroom vs. what the actually look like on track in-game? Here's an example with the Audi R8 LMS GT3 (this applies to the Endurance version too):

244021 244022

As you can see, in the Showroom screenshot (the 1st one), the part(s) of the decal that are meant to be red for some reason are pink, and the silver sections are almost non visible. Compare this to the second screenshot, where all the colours on the decal are all the correct shades.

I'm going back to your original post to answer.

I looked at this exact car and livery in game. The car looked the same colours in the showroom as on the track. I then took a photo from the showroom using the in game function. The in game picture processing then changed the red to pink and the silver /light grey boasts to almost white exactly the same as your pink photo.

If you took the photo on track using the same method the processing wouldn't necessarily change the red to pink due to the other colours in the shot. If you took those same photos and applied an autofix process to both in Photoshop something very similar could happen.

So I would check again your showroom. Just use the share button to take a screenshot both in showroom and on track to be sure. On mine they are correct.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

I'm going back to your original post to answer.

I looked at this exact car and livery in game. The car looked the same colours in the showroom as on the track. I then took a photo from the showroom using the in game function. The in game picture processing then changed the red to pink and the silver /light grey boasts to almost white exactly the same as your pink photo.

If you took the photo on track using the same method the processing wouldn't necessarily change the red to pink due to the other colours in the shot. If you took those same photos and applied an autofix process to both in Photoshop something very similar could happen.

So I would check again your showroom. Just use the share button to take a screenshot both in showroom and on track to be sure. On mine they are correct.

I just tried using the Share button to take a screenshot in the Showroom like you suggested, and the colour shades still looked incorrect to what they should be. Would it really be that hard to just fix this and the weird auto contrast thing that happens in Photo Mode in a patch?

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

I just tried using the Share button to take a screenshot in the Showroom like you suggested, and the colour shades still looked incorrect to what they should be. Would it really be that hard to just fix this and the weird auto contrast thing that happens in Photo Mode in a patch?

Can you post your shots? One in the showroom and one at the track. Save them as png files rather than jpg. There's an option in the ps4 menu.

Just to double confirm. I set the shots in photomode and then take them using the share button.

The other difference I can thunk if is I'm on PS4 Pro and you are on PS4. I normally have HDR on and images are generated at 4k due to my TV resolution but I'll try it again with HDR off.

Agreed the take picture button would be better taking the photo as viewed in photomode.

[Ravager619]

Is it with random weather really possible that it snows in Laguna Seca in August?

In real life? You'd be lucky to get some fog in the morning hours. It's too close to the coast and too low in elevation to get snow.

[Ravager619]

I'm having troubles dialing in good controller settings(xbox one controller) and I am hoping someone can point me to some threads that have some settings that work. I have been dabbling a bit in Formula Rookie and some times I do ok but on tracks like Catalunya I am barely able to complete a lap.

I am so frustrated with the controller that I am researching a racing wheel. Not sure how far in price I want to go, considering Thrustmaster TMX and TX mostly. Any thoughts on those or other recommendations would be great.

If you need to do it on a tight budget, go for the TMX Pro if you can find it in stock. It's $250 but that extra $50 you're paying will get you the T3PA pedals. Those are $100 on Amazon.

You can also do what I did (for now). I'm using a nearly two year old T150. I like the wheel but the pedals were starting to go. I just bought the T3PA PRO pedals and the TH8A shifter earlier today. Those pedals not only have a better feel but they're more precise. The pedals allow me to roll through turns and carry more speed in the corners. I imagine the T3PA pedals that come with the TMX Pro will be somewhat similar and better than the pedals that come with the $200 TMX wheel.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

Can you post your shots? One in the showroom and one at the track. Save them as png files rather than jpg. There's an option in the ps4 menu.

Just to double confirm. I set the shots in photomode and then take them using the share button.

The other difference I can thunk if is I'm on PS4 Pro and you are on PS4. I normally have HDR on and images are generated at 4k due to my TV resolution but I'll try it again with HDR off.

Agreed the take picture button would be better taking the photo as viewed in photomode.

Here are my two pictures. I went into photo mode and then used the Share button to take both of them like you said, and as you can see, it didn't fix the one in the Showroom.

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[Redadeg]

In real life? You'd be lucky to get some fog in the morning hours. It's too close to the coast and too low in elevation to get snow.

No. Not in real life. I know the location. Was there when Rodriguez died.

I drove PC2 with random weather and got snow in Laguna Seca in August. Thats a bit weird, isnt it?

[McKiernan]

No. Not in real life. I know the location. Was there when Rodriguez died.

I drove PC2 with random weather and got snow in Laguna Seca in August. Thats a bit weird, isnt it?

It does seem a bit random...oh wait.

[JoshTheGeologist]

No. Not in real life. I know the location. Was there when Rodriguez died.

I drove PC2 with random weather and got snow in Laguna Seca in August. Thats a bit weird, isnt it?

#ClimateChange

[balderz002]

climate change is fake news according to some old duffer who is keen on 'clean' coal.................

[JoshTheGeologist]

Not to get off topic, but as a scientist I can assure you it is very real. And that isn't an opinion, that is backed by numerous scientific facts

OT- I wish random weather could have snow turned off/ not come during summer months.

Besides Rallycross, what series actually race in the snow? Usually races are planned to avoid such an event. Can't compete with a foot of snow on the ground

[F1_Racer68]

Not to get off topic, but as a scientist I can assure you it is very real. And that isn't an opinion, that is backed by numerous scientific facts

OT- I wish random weather could have snow turned off/ not come during summer months.

Besides Rallycross, what series actually race in the snow? Usually races are planned to avoid such an event. Can't compete with a foot of snow on the ground

We Canadians will respectfully disagree....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-uszsu7TZo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNCcfVqD_mM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6gklndK04

[Ravager619]

No. Not in real life. I know the location. Was there when Rodriguez died.

I drove PC2 with random weather and got snow in Laguna Seca in August. Thats a bit weird, isnt it?

That. Is. Weird. Now I'll have to check that out for myself after work tonight.

[Nexus1011]

Hey guys!
Anyone with a good controller settings like in PC1 by this guy had? http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?23167-Best-Control-Pad-Settings-All-Formats&p=893470&viewfull=1#post893470

[Seelenkrank]

That. Is. Weird. Now I'll have to check that out for myself after work tonight.

random weather did not check the time of the year. its random.
so you can get 30° air with 45° track temp and its snowing outside.

[Bealdor]

random weather did not check the time of the year. its random.
so you can get 30° air with 45° track temp and its snowing outside.

This will probably change in one of the next patches.

[GenBrien]

This will probably change in one of the next patches.
so not 1.3?

[banner77amc]

Why does everyone think that snow at place where there rarely has ever been snow with a game that allows you to set weather as "snow" is bonkers? It seems straightforward to me that you can have snow anywhere at anytime when its a video game.

[GenBrien]

Why does everyone think that snow at place where there rarely has ever been snow with a game that allows you to set weather as "snow" is bonkers? It seems straightforward to me that you can have snow anywhere at anytime when its a video game.

when we play a simulation, we dont expect to have snow in Florida/desert/anywhere when it's summer and temp are over 20c/70f.....

[Jaood]

Simulation value
Jk i think we want both realistic and total random.

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

Here are my two pictures. I went into photo mode and then used the Share button to take both of them like you said, and as you can see, it didn't fix the one in the Showroom.

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That's strange.

I've now tried it in the game on my PS4 and PS4 Pro. Same results showing the correct red colour.

From my PS4
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And one from the PS4 Pro
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As before the only time I get the colour change to pink is when using the x button to take the picture in game.

Try using the share button again to capture an image like my last one this time with the photomode options just to check your settings.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

That's strange.

I've now tried it in the game on my PS4 and PS4 Pro. Same results showing the correct red colour.

From my PS4
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And one from the PS4 Pro
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As before the only time I get the colour change to pink is when using the x button to take the picture in game.

Try using the share button again to capture an image like my last one this time with the photomode options just to check your settings.

I tried taking a picture with those exact same option values as your second screenshot and the red sections still looked pink. Why is this happening?

[Mrocz]

I was wondering. Is this normal that in Time Trial all car classes are mixed together? I want to try learn to get quicker in GT3 class on certain Tracks, and all top times are all GT Classes mixed together. Personally i think this is annoying, i would prefer to see only GT3 cars times not GT1, GTE, Vintage GT etc etc etc. There is no Filter options on PS4. Will it be changed or are there server limits to separate ech class? Same with other car classes.

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

I tried taking a picture with those exact same option values as your second screenshot and the red sections still looked pink. Why is this happening?

I don't know. I can't imagine your tv uses a pink mode only triggered by certain events in a game. :)

Post one of the pictures with the settings and maybe a developer can look at it to try and explain or fix it (if a mod can report it).

What is the model number on the back (or is it bottom) of your PS4? Have you made any changes in the HDR calibration section of the game (not that I think it's that)?

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

I was wondering. Is this normal that in Time Trial all car classes are mixed together? I want to try learn to get quicker in GT3 class on certain Tracks, and all top times are all GT Classes mixed together. Personally i think this is annoying, i would prefer to see only GT3 cars times not GT1, GTE, Vintage GT etc etc etc. There is no Filter options on PS4. Will it be changed or are there server limits to separate ech class? Same with other car classes.

Unfortunately it is limited by Sony/Microsoft's restrictions on the number of tables in the leaderboards for non exclusive games (I think I remember a dev saying it's 1000 in Project Cars1). I think there are over 20000 possible combinations of track and car in the game so us on the consoles lose out. On PC there is a leaderboard for all cars at all tracks.

Things would be improved if we could filter leaderboards by class or specific model on console.

[Zotac Ten80]

Yep, looks stupid.

[ProjectCARSFiend]

I don't know. I can't imagine your tv uses a pink mode only triggered by certain events in a game. :)

Post one of the pictures with the settings and maybe a developer can look at it to try and explain or fix it (if a mod can report it).

What is the model number on the back (or is it bottom) of your PS4? Have you made any changes in the HDR calibration section of the game (not that I think it's that)?

No, I haven’t made any changes, and since I’m on standard PS4, I don’t think I can anyway. What would knowing the model number allow someone to do?

[LockeChris]

I'm wondering if I halluzinate or if someone else might have observed this:
I was racing online the other day and followed another car through a very fast, long turn and I swear I saw a piece of rubber fly away from a tyre of that car and roll along the tarmac towards the outside of the corner, like you see it in IRL slow-mo's from time to time. :eek:

[F1_Racer68]

I'm wondering if I halluzinate or if someone else might have observed this:
I was racing online the other day and followed another car through a very fast, long turn and I swear I saw a piece of rubber fly away from a tyre of that car and roll along the tarmac towards the outside of the corner, like you see it in IRL slow-mo's from time to time. :eek:

Yep. See it all the time. Pretty damn cool actually.

[Mariangello]

I'm wondering if I halluzinate or if someone else might have observed this:
I was racing online the other day and followed another car through a very fast, long turn and I swear I saw a piece of rubber fly away from a tyre of that car and roll along the tarmac towards the outside of the corner, like you see it in IRL slow-mo's from time to time. :eek:

Yep, PC2 has wow moments :)

[LockeChris]

Wow, that's awesome! Thanks for the confirmation :)

[JohnSchoonsBeard]

No, I haven’t made any changes, and since I’m on standard PS4, I don’t think I can anyway. What would knowing the model number allow someone to do?

In case there's a problem that only affects a specific build of PS4. Trying to narrow it down. It's mystifying so just trying to help solve it.

[mister dog]

Any word on that annoying bug that resets your camera to bumper cam each time? Hope that's included in 3.0.

[Raklodder]

I love it when people come on my YouTube channel trying to promote pirating the game. If you don't like it, make a refund and don't play. There's no excuse for criminal behavior.

[Jezza819]

Is it my imagination or didn't there used to be an Opel Touring car? Wasn't there 4 cars in that class, the BMW, the Mercedes, the Renault, and the Opel?

[Tank621]

Is it my imagination or didn't there used to be an Opel Touring car? Wasn't there 4 cars in that class, the BMW, the Mercedes, the Renault, and the Opel?

Opel is in the Mororports Pack