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APR193
22-08-2017, 08:28
I personally don't get the obsession (in all racing games) in having squeaky clean racing against the ai. I want them to be aggressive when defending their position, I want them to have a late lunge, outbrake themselves and run off track. I want them to go for the inside line, bang doors, but then hold a slightly tigter line on the exit of the corner to give just enough room to the other car. From what I've seen so far from higher levels of ai agression, everything I want is there. Good hard mostly clean racing, with realistic levels of contact, mistakes and crashes.

I saw a video yesterday of GT3 racing around Fuji. One ai lunged the player into turn 1, outbraked themselves and launched into the ai car in front, taking them both out and blocking part of the track for a few seconds. It was the first and only so far time I've seen it happen like that, and it looked brilliant. I want realistic racing against aggressive ai, not racing against ai that are afraid to have a go.

Schadows
22-08-2017, 10:20
While I agree that the AI in pcars1 was a bit too much reckless (we don't want ultra clean racing but we don't want a grid full of Maldonado), but even then, it was also quite bad a defending, never closing the door, and yielding immediately if you put you nose on the inside. Frankly, even if I like starting last and trying to overtake the maximum of opponents in a short time, I still want them to resist and try to overtake me when possible.

honespc
22-08-2017, 12:45
Setting the AI skill to 100% should prove to be challenging enough in what it comes to try and catch her. In other words, to have the best possible competition.

Setting the ai aggression slider low should allow the player (which is good regardless what others may say) to prevent she committing stupid acts of miscalculation, obviously caused by the lack of awareness that making her that aggressive in order to be "as fast as possible" when she's behind you or on your side fighting for a position, can only lead to.

This is still rudimentary AI, not powerful enough. Making her aggressive only leads to trouble. This is not like racing against aggressive human drivers that however know where the limits to their actions lie in. They are not that bound to make mistakes because they are good, and have a brain as well. Proper human players like aforementioned will brake before causing an accident and finish second to you if that was to be the outcome. AI will crash into you if her aggression was set too high, just like crashers in MP lobbies do too.

I don't see what's the deal in trying to protect myself from stupid random behaviour because of miscalculation based on being utterly aggressive. Chances of getting rammed 90% of the times she's behind you or on one of your sides isn't racing. That is more of a dive bombing contest, familiar to a multiplayer lobby racing against idiots.

Roger Prynne
22-08-2017, 13:50
AI aggression set at 50% is the most common for WMD2 members.
Set it too low and they are just not challenging.

OddTimer
22-08-2017, 14:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbHhJEqsRz4&t=29s

I think this is the first video that shows car damage in the hud....good stuff

rosko
22-08-2017, 16:40
Is there any noise from the stands in pcars 2?

GenBrien
22-08-2017, 18:03
is it me or pitlane is dark as hell?

Sampo
22-08-2017, 18:26
That's the old press build. Don't worry.

Aile_Bleue
22-08-2017, 19:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a3njmQRlw0

Schadows
22-08-2017, 21:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a3njmQRlw0I must admit that, for once, wallstark's video wasn't very interesting. It was taken at a Namco Bandai event (hence not showing his usual skill), with AI set at 120% which resulted in cruising at last place from a couple of laps in.
The second half of the video is dedicated to explain why he has posted so few pcars2 video, which was the result of him loosing his pcars2 license in june, after posting a capture from another BN event which was showing bugged shadows, and contradictory statements between BN and SMS.

Konan
22-08-2017, 21:57
Not to nitpick but it's: Bandai Namco...:p

Edit: and to make it crystal clear...he lost his license because he posted unapproved videos which was breaching the NDA he signed when he became a WMD member...

Schadows
22-08-2017, 22:59
you got me there n__n

As for the reason of the ban, it was implied, I think. Personally, I don't really care if it was a genuine mistake or not, because either way, he still seem to like the game even if he admit some points don't please him, and eventually, BN will still give him the same "perks" he would have received if he didn't broke the rules.

Roger Prynne
23-08-2017, 10:14
http://youtu.be/SYlH2YvyeRE

BigDad
23-08-2017, 14:07
This is kind of annoying ! Its starting to look pretty amazing !
https://youtu.be/Z4lRSvpYLcc
Is there a pCars 2 night replay i can compare visually to this ?

Roger Prynne
23-08-2017, 14:10
http://youtu.be/A_F6fAzjSwo

Bliman
23-08-2017, 14:18
This is kind of annoying ! Its starting to look pretty amazing !
https://youtu.be/Z4lRSvpYLcc
Is there a pCars 2 night replay i can compare visually to this ?

That looks very very good. Gran Turismo Lighting system is the best out there for the sims (I know it's what you define as sim).
Also the replay system is the best.
I just hope that Project Cars 2 pulls away in the gameplay side which is the most important aspect for me.

OddTimer
23-08-2017, 15:10
This is kind of annoying ! Its starting to look pretty amazing !
https://youtu.be/Z4lRSvpYLcc
Is there a pCars 2 night replay i can compare visually to this ?

Does it really matter? I mean, the game will have a few tracks, so far only one of the them has been confirmed to have night mode and the whole night thingy is a dummy...no time of day transition, I doubt it will simulate track temperature etc....it does look great, but if you the full package, GT is far from offering it.

rosko
23-08-2017, 19:09
Does it really matter? I mean, the game will have a few tracks, so far only one of the them has been confirmed to have night mode and the whole night thingy is a dummy...no time of day transition, I doubt it will simulate track temperature etc....it does look great, but if you the full package, GT is far from offering it.

Yes the only thing they did better is the lighting, it is admittedly very good but i don't think i will be getting a playstation anytime soon.

Schadows
23-08-2017, 19:33
That looks very very good. Gran Turismo Lighting system is the best out there for the sims (I know it's what you define as sim).
Also the replay system is the best.
I just hope that Project Cars 2 pulls away in the gameplay side which is the most important aspect for me.Even Ian admitted GTS replays were superior in terms of visual quality.
While it is a great bonus, I don't really care, since all gameplay videos i've seen (not the "cockpit view replays with hud enabled) are far from that result.

honespc
23-08-2017, 19:58
I still think GT uses two different rendering engines, one that looks meh!aka the in-game rendering engine, and the other that looks straight away outworldly for the replays. The lightning in the former is..., ok, and in the later is absolutely stunning.

So the comparison ain't fair, for the gameplay rendering engine can't obviously hold to the quality of the replay one.

I still find pc lighting better. Perhaps not more natural, but better. Not to mention there's no actual weather on GT, so to say...

BigDad
23-08-2017, 22:47
Yes the only thing they did better is the lighting, it is admittedly very good but i don't think i will be getting a playstation anytime soon.

Not only the lighting but also their AA solution!
I think SMS are putting to much emphasis on VR and displaying videos concentrating on VR and lowering down settings and the shimmer and flicker is just so full on.
As much as people say visuals dont matter as long as it drives well! Well there are more console players than VR users and i know they will look at all the VR vids and compare them to GTS.
Others might jump into pCars 2 and then wonder why their helmet cam doesn't move around like all these VR vids. I know some plebs that don't even know what VR stands for, lol
SMS should start pumping out vids at full max settings with AA set to max also with 2D screens in mind, given that they are selling to a massive console market that don't have VR and are competing with people who will possibly only have one racing game purchase coming and probably would go for the one that looks the best.

Schadows
24-08-2017, 08:42
I think SMS are putting to much emphasis on VR and displaying videos concentrating on VRI don't think SMS has posted any videos of VR gameplay themselves (well, maybe one from the game reveal event in sweden).
Most of the VR videos are posted by current wmd members and those who have access to the press kit.
All official trailers so far are most probably made with max settings (and 4k).

Still I find it funny to see how good (let's even say "superior") GTS' replays are, while their gameplay visuals are indisputably lower than pcars2, despite the full time of day cycle and weather support. But I should be waiting for the framerate analysis of both games on PS4 before laughing, because despite all the efforts of the team on pcars1, the game didn't run at a rick solid 60fps either.

BigDad
24-08-2017, 12:45
I don't think SMS has posted any videos of VR gameplay themselves (well, maybe one from the game reveal event in sweden).
Most of the VR videos are posted by current wmd members and those who have access to the press kit.
All official trailers so far are most probably made with max settings (and 4k).

Still I find it funny to see how good (let's even say "superior") GTS' replays are, while their gameplay visuals are indisputably lower than pcars2, despite the full time of day cycle and weather support. But I should be waiting for the framerate analysis of both games on PS4 before laughing, because despite all the efforts of the team on pcars1, the game didn't run at a rick solid 60fps either.

True but as this thread is called "SMS approved videos" so its not like they have encouraged 2D over VR .
I dont really care for GTS but rather just wanting / hoping for the utmost best , perfect driving experience out of whatever plays the best , driving and visuals are very important to me . I'm actually quite sick of playing games that just dont fool me into feeling like i'm actually there . Ive spent enough on my rig and PC and just want the visuals to match the physics (im looking at rF2 here and needing pCars 2 to smash it out of the park) or i'm just going to cry !

Konan
24-08-2017, 13:00
True but as this thread is called "SMS approved videos" so its not like they have encouraged 2D over VR .
I dont really care for GTS but rather just wanting / hoping for the utmost best , perfect driving experience out of whatever plays the best , driving and visuals are very important to me . I'm actually quite sick of playing games that just dont fool me into feeling like i'm actually there . Ive spent enough on my rig and PC and just want the visuals to match the physics (im looking at rF2 here and needing pCars 2 to smash it out of the park) or i'm just going to cry !

May i steer you to a post of mine where i quoted a WMD2 member?

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51044-One-vast-improvement-that-could-be-made-even-at-this-late-date&p=1351287&viewfull=1#post1351287

OddTimer
24-08-2017, 13:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHOcJp5mFV8

Great multiclass action!

Mod Edit: Multiclass action from about 5 mins.

OddTimer
24-08-2017, 13:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy7IbtVUous&t=1s

oh and this one has a bit of everything: pits, multiclass, rain/dry...pretty amazing!

snipeme77
24-08-2017, 13:57
Can anyone confirm if we're going to get a free camera in the replays?

Mahjik
24-08-2017, 13:59
True but as this thread is called "SMS approved videos" so its not like they have encouraged 2D over VR .

Given the power it takes to run VR with today's games, those are the users typically with the most resources to produce videos. I will tell you that most of WMD2 is not VR, but if you look, most of the videos are only coming from 3-4 people... They just happen to be VR users with powerful systems. Bettlejuice and Steeljockey are very responsive in their video comments section. Since they are mainly doing VR videos, ask one of them in their comment for some 2D videos.

Roger Prynne
24-08-2017, 16:53
http://youtu.be/X07HA52deRU

honespc
24-08-2017, 20:24
^Let's hope more and more project cars players that use controllers realize that it's precisely in cockpit view where best car handling is achieved as well, not just with a wheel+ cockpit.

This was the case in pc1 already too with a pad.

marcosanta8
25-08-2017, 10:09
In this video we're showing how the new setup sharing system works, in the multplayer lobby and in Time Trial. It is possible to save multiple setups (per track, or generic), to share them with other players in a multiplayer lobby, and to download them from Time Trial ghosts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5HAxSJXNfQ

honespc
25-08-2017, 13:32
^ wow cool stuff indeed. You can now share setups "live", literally.

VelvetTorpedo
25-08-2017, 19:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnT0gMcZZXI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbBV1l7qGQg

honespc
26-08-2017, 07:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnT0gMcZZXICan the Mustang compete against the Lancer in a club race, specially with the new enhanced drifting physics?. The Mustang is always one of the best drifters available, but the Lancer is the perfect fast 4x4 drifter in a club layout, and now more with the new physics. Yes the Mustang should get its enhanced drifting physics as well (they were awesome enough in pc1 already with this car though), but I don't see it facing these 4x4 cars now in "Club Brawls" : - D

What are the other contenders in this category?. Is there an Impreza too to fight against the Lancer, and another RWD to drive against Mustangs?.

God I'd wish more people were into this type of club races. Most tracks offer you a club layout, and few of us actually race on them. They make for so much fun and engaging racing for wheel users, let alone with some weather applied to the race.

Tank621
26-08-2017, 08:53
Can the Mustang compete against the Lancer in a club race, specially with the new enhanced drifting physics?. The Mustang is always one of the best drifters available, but the Lancer is the perfect fast 4x4 drifter in a club layout, and now more with the new physics. Yes the Mustang should get its enhanced drifting physics as well (they were awesome enough in pc1 already with this car though), but I don't see it facing these 4x4 cars now in "Club Brawls" : - D

What are the other contenders in this category?. Is there an Impreza too to fight against the Lancer, and another RWD to drive against Mustangs?.

God I'd wish more people were into this type of club races. Most tracks offer you a club layout, and few of us actually race on them. They make for so much fun and engaging racing for wheel users, let alone with some weather applied to the race.

Road {E} [RDE]
2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupé
1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
2015 Ford Mustang GT
2016 Honda Civic Type-R
2016 Mercedes-AMG A 45 4MATIC
2016 Mercedes-AMG C 63 Coupé S
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX FQ360
2012 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ400

I believe that the road cars a balanced using Nordschleife lap times iirc

Roger Prynne
26-08-2017, 11:47
http://youtu.be/-FRsqweaxUM

OddTimer
26-08-2017, 13:56
http://youtu.be/-FRsqweaxUM

AI; 90%, aggression: 60%. Two weather slots.

STEELJOCKEY
28-08-2017, 12:47
Some variety


https://youtu.be/3HltAPD1AW4


https://youtu.be/aQjPWylUxIo

hkraft300
28-08-2017, 14:14
^ cherry picking with the low AI skill mate?
;)

Awesome videos as always.

OddTimer
28-08-2017, 15:09
An AI died pretty ugly in the Rallycross video at 1.15 =]

rosko
28-08-2017, 15:39
At least with the Ai maybe it can be worked on post release & tweaked further. It seems the Ai has been a bit of an issue towards the later half of development in the beta. No sim has got this working spot on, AC has a ton of Ai issues despite the huge improvement R3E imo has issues if you are an inconsistent driver & collision physics is poor rf2 is very good but play against ai on an oval & its not very good. I can understand with SMS having to deal with the complex dynamics that getting the Ai right is a massive challenge.

STEELJOCKEY
29-08-2017, 02:03
^ cherry picking with the low AI skill mate?
;)

Awesome videos as always.

If you call AI skill at 105% and aggression 100% low, then I guess I'll have to turn it up so more ROFLMAO

Purg
29-08-2017, 07:59
Can the Mustang compete against the Lancer in a club race, specially with the new enhanced drifting physics?.

Turns out they can. Might be my first match-up. My last car was an EVOX and my next car is narrowing down to a Mustang - the only thing that's stopping it is my current car runs the same donk but Supercharged.. and the Kia Stinger will release at roughly the time I'm looking to change and it offers stellar performance in a completely different way.

Roger Prynne
29-08-2017, 10:10
http://youtu.be/LgaNoRMVqRU

honespc
29-08-2017, 11:35
The understeer is real. Default setup?

OddTimer
29-08-2017, 12:44
This looks really fun and that clio looks alive! now, the AI is super fast on the straights, hope this is not in the final game. Video description doesn't mention build number.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ystsAO1T8U&t=29s

VelvetTorpedo
29-08-2017, 12:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqHhtpWWuSc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-_S79Z0Ays

Roger Prynne
31-08-2017, 10:02
Few laps around Oschersleben driving the 911 GT3 R during a 20 car GT3 race. AI was set to 108S and 75A which gave fast AI that was hard to make and hold passes on. Had a good fight with the BMW in front. Requested in my comments to do the 911 and get to show off a new car driving and another driven by the computer - in an awesome paint job. Available in 4K playback.


http://youtu.be/I1kfBjQUG8M

Roger Prynne
31-08-2017, 10:08
In French.


http://youtu.be/nuOO_i04pkI

marcosanta8
31-08-2017, 10:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVLYntlmbt8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8wTG57PZWY

banner77amc
31-08-2017, 23:15
Some variety


https://youtu.be/3HltAPD1AW4


https://youtu.be/aQjPWylUxIo

Great variety!

Roger Prynne
01-09-2017, 10:10
http://youtu.be/G9Hc5OGZn7Q


http://youtu.be/qtlKROBpC8A


http://youtu.be/k9G42HtGcVQ


http://youtu.be/TLtxD0zFUN0

FS7
01-09-2017, 13:43
http://youtu.be/G9Hc5OGZn7Q
At first I thought the title of the video was "Wildest Rallycross in VR", then I realized it was "Wildcrest Rallycross in VR". That's what happens when English isn't your native language and you're tired. :glee:

amazed
01-09-2017, 17:09
At first I thought the title of the video was "Wildest Rallycross in VR", then I realized it was "Wildcrest Rallycross in VR". That's what happens when English isn't your native language and you're tired. :glee:

That can happen even if English is your first language...;)

Bliman
03-09-2017, 22:27
I would like to know, those tire screeches you always hear in the video's are they really that loud in real life?
Do you hear them that well in these loud cars in real life?
If I look at yt movies of real race cars you can't hear them at all (in the cockpit,I know it depends on location of camera and sound recording, etc..).
I would just like to know if this is realistic or is it done to give more feedpack to the player to know you are close to the limit?

FZA
03-09-2017, 23:41
What strikes me even more is how often you hear tires screeching during braking even when ABS is on. Really disturbing

poirqc
03-09-2017, 23:49
What strikes me even more is how often you hear tires screeching during braking even when ABS is on. Really disturbing

If i'm not mistaken, i think that the tire sound has an independent volume slider this time. Regardless of how it's mixed, out of the box, you should be able to set it up.

In pCars 1, i always played on an analog stereo(pawn shop dirty amp) system and i was amazed how different the game sounded when i tried in a a nice surround system.

Roger Prynne
04-09-2017, 11:01
If i'm not mistaken, i think that the tire sound has an independent volume slider this time. Regardless of how it's mixed, out of the box, you should be able to set it up.

In pCars 1, i always played on an analog stereo(pawn shop dirty amp) system and i was amazed how different the game sounded when i tried in a a nice surround system.

Yep, as do a lot of other things.

FZA
04-09-2017, 12:00
I get it, but it's not the point. I shouldn't have to reduce the tire volume as it shouldn't screech with ABS on in the first place, it doesn't make sense.

marcosanta8
04-09-2017, 12:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJdIbyjcDs

FZA
04-09-2017, 13:26
Updated road texture, me likey

hkraft300
04-09-2017, 14:09
... it shouldn't screech with ABS on in the first place, it doesn't make sense.

Well. Abs doesn't stop the tyres sliding completely. It backs off the brake pressure every time it detects enough slip. So this results in many micro-slides and that's when you get a bit of noise.

Bliman
04-09-2017, 15:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJdIbyjcDs

Brutal man
Very nice, great driving and good display of the sim:eagerness:

amazed
04-09-2017, 15:31
I get it, but it's not the point. I shouldn't have to reduce the tire volume as it shouldn't screech with ABS on in the first place, it doesn't make sense.

But you don't know what volume settings were applied in the video?

FZA
04-09-2017, 18:29
It's not my point, read again.

Anyway I'll give hkraft the benefit of the doubt regarding ABS because what he says is true, we'll see when the game comes out. I also wanted to say that tire screech sounded much better (to me) around that build of the game :(


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKtYrnmfuA

Schadows
04-09-2017, 18:39
I would like to know, those tire screeches you always hear in the video's are they really that loud in real life?
Do you hear them that well in these loud cars in real life?Based on several track days with my RX-8 or a friend's 997, I can assure you that you will hear tire sound quite often, and quite loudly too.
By the way, a tire is always sliding to some extend. Sure, that's not to the point someone would call it drifting, but it's just simple physics. During corners the inner and outer side of a tire cannot go at different speed (since each part run different distances being the inside or outside) without some slip involved, and anyway, a tire will not completely stick to the tarmac. What we call grip is a delicate balance between sticking to the road and loose enough to roll.

Mahjik
04-09-2017, 18:43
I would like to know, those tire screeches you always hear in the video's are they really that loud in real life?
Do you hear them that well in these loud cars in real life?

Street tires yes, racing slicks not so much. PC2 will be similar in which each tire type makes different noises. One of the complaints many people had of PC1 was the lack of tire sounds. In PC2, people who want more tire noise will able to crank it up and those who want less will be able to decrease it. ;)

Fanapryde
04-09-2017, 19:00
I probably ovelooked it, but is there a way to change the ABS level in pC2 ?
If so, that might explain something.

breyzipp
05-09-2017, 07:01
2:25 - does the helmet get wet/dirty inside a closed cockpit car? :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1_gcCOpcA

Otherwise an absolutely great video, love the 488 GT3, love the sound, love Willow Springs as well, I seriously hope it's featured in the career mode as well now.

Fanapryde
05-09-2017, 07:12
2:25 - does the helmet get wet/dirty inside a closed cockpit car? :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1_gcCOpcA

Otherwise an absolutely great video, love the 488 GT3, love the sound, love Willow Springs as well, I seriously hope it's featured in the career mode as well now.That contact at 2:51 ... Looks like a solid nudge...
The Ferrari wasn't really impressed here right ?

VelvetTorpedo
05-09-2017, 12:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8PK1NlUXgs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FU7Jl-fjY0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHFowh32Kls


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la5yKqHzeDY

honespc
05-09-2017, 15:23
Amazing drift physics. However...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t08Y06RPyo&t=266

... it looks like tyres will never go red. For instance watch the first part with LaFerrari. Rear tyres should have gone red by the end of the first lap already, but it looks like yellow is the maximum boiling temp. Red doesn't seem to exist, so there's no overheating, again. Looks like you can keep on drifting forever with tyres wearing off as the "only" consequence.

I think I heard some time ago from wmd2 members that we were returning to the likes of pc1 patch 1.5 or so goodness, where tyres would go red when pushing too hard, as we could have it no other way.

Is the lack of overheating/red tyres some sort of trade off, again?

hkraft300
05-09-2017, 16:20
Well TBH it doesn't really matter if the tyres are red/yellow/purple/salmon/fabulous as long as we get accurate effects of grip and wear according to the temperature/pressure/abuse.

Gethema
05-09-2017, 17:40
Keep those awesome PC2 vids coming!

On a side note, can anyone explain to me why I can't go fullscreen when watching those vids on this forum ('fullscreen not available'), but rather have to go to youtube to make it work? Using Win10 and Opera Browser.

Thanks! :)

honespc
05-09-2017, 18:52
Well TBH it doesn't really matter as long as we get accurate effects of grip and wear according to the temperature/pressure/abuse.and what about grip loss caused by overheating, which should be signaled by the red icon. Isn't that important too besides grip and wear?. The LaFerrari isn't a drift car, and if it was on road tyres, then at least the rears should have gone red by the end of that first lap already, and have a total loss of grip by the second lap until you let them cool down

Fanapryde
05-09-2017, 18:55
and what about grip loss caused by overheating, which should be signaled by the red icon. Isn't that important too besides grip and wear?. The LaFerrari isn't a drift car, and if it was on road tyres then, at least the rears should have gone red by the end of that first lap already
Does the LaFerrari have colored tire icons implemented in the dashboard ? :)

OddTimer
05-09-2017, 18:56
destroying tires when drifting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD94MAxezTs&t=1249s

OddTimer
05-09-2017, 18:59
and tires overheating here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ulfFF3bHXg

honespc
05-09-2017, 19:28
destroying tires when drifting:Destroying them as expected, but not overheating them. Yes it is not the most powerful car around, but rear tyres should have gone hotter

I can also notice in this video that there's no grip loss as the rears get completely worn. PC1 here we go again?. I thought that was fixed too tbh.


and tires overheating here:This video leads me to believe that the overheating threshold is again too high (PC1 last patch). Another area I was thinking It would get revised.



Does the LaFerrari have colored tire icons implemented in the dashboard ? :)...

FZA
05-09-2017, 20:12
Very fair points. GM is playing the press build but still, 2 months before release, you'd think such basic features would be implemented already

breyzipp
05-09-2017, 20:54
Those karting circuits seem to become popular by the drifters, so I'm really glad to see them opened for other cars than just the kart. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la5yKqHzeDY

Tank621
05-09-2017, 21:06
Yeah the cart tracks do seem perfect for drifting- mostly flat, no long straights, short. It looks like it'll be great fun.

Now I just need to learn how to drift

Krus Control
05-09-2017, 21:08
Amazing drift physics. However...

... it looks like tyres will never go red. For instance watch the first part with LaFerrari. Rear tyres should have gone red by the end of the first lap already, but it looks like yellow is the maximum boiling temp. Red doesn't seem to exist, so there's no overheating, again. Looks like you can keep on drifting forever with tyres wearing off as the "only" consequence.

I think I heard some time ago from wmd2 members that we were returning to the likes of pc1 patch 1.5 or so goodness, where tyres would go red when pushing too hard, as we could have it no other way.

Is the lack of overheating/red tyres some sort of trade off, again?

You really can't complain about tire temperatures by saying "They're not red." You don't even know the temps the colors correlate to. It could be that the temps are in the perfect range but the color correlated to that range is yellow. And also even if you have a number in the madness engine for tire temp there is really no way of knowing if that correlates in any way to real life except by watching how the car drives. Having said that I will say that grip levels seem too high in every video I've seen in all cars and in all conditions, especially in snow. I did read that SMS planned to change snow grip levels before release though.

It's not the same as PCARS 1 grip problems at all though. Even though grip levels look a little on the high end to me it doesn't appear inauthentic. It's more like a really exceptional model of more grippy tires. Especially these latest drifting videos from Hobbnob1 have me super impressed. In PCARS 1 the big problem was that grip levels were too high during kinetic friction and they fluctuated in an unpredictable way, eventually grabbing way too much grip. And this problem seems non existent in any class in PCARS 2. So that's my biggest worry already taken care of. Also I know SMS and I fully expect the tire physics to have a notable improvement upon release and in the following months. For me all of these videos have been nothing but extreme hype. PCARS 2 looks like it blows even rFactor 2 out of the water.

breyzipp
05-09-2017, 21:13
Yeah the cart tracks do seem perfect for drifting- mostly flat, no long straights, short. It looks like it'll be great fun.

Now I just need to learn how to drift

I actually learned to drift in FH3 (with a controller) and I seem to best at it powersliding in 4WD cars. :D

Now I'm curious to see how that carries over to PCARS2, probably nothing at all. :p

But I don't mind, drifting ain't my thing for the initial weeks/months anyway.

Tank621
05-09-2017, 21:25
I actually learned to drift in FH3 (with a controller) and I seem to best at it powersliding in 4WD cars. :D

Now I'm curious to see how that carries over to PCARS2, probably nothing at all. :p

But I don't mind, drifting ain't my thing for the initial weeks/months anyway.

I did manage to accidently drift through Eau Rouge and Radillion a couple weeks back on PCars. It was mildly terrifying.
I can do "drifting" in Forza but that's hardly the same, once you work out how to exploit the points system you can generally do alright

But these new videos are really tempting me to try and learn properly. Though maybe I'll start in something a little less insane than the Radbull

Actually this temptation might be only because I want to show off on the cool down lap

Ryzza5
05-09-2017, 23:28
Do we know if tyre wear was enabled or disabled for those drifting videos?

peterCars
06-09-2017, 02:29
Keep those awesome PC2 vids coming!

On a side note, can anyone explain to me why I can't go fullscreen when watching those vids on this forum ('fullscreen not available'), but rather have to go to youtube to make it work? Using Win10 and Opera Browser.

Thanks! :)


copy and paste the yt link to another browser tab and view from there.
edit : oops I didnt read your post fully, youve already done that.

OddTimer
06-09-2017, 15:19
Man, this looks great! Definitely a newer build. The engineeroffers more updates on positions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-5pN8zt5d0

Great oval action on this one. AI seems very competitive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvXy1vCHt_w

hkraft300
06-09-2017, 15:20
and what about grip loss caused by overheating, which should be signaled by the red icon.

Well I prefer the grip loss from overheating to be signalled by the tyres sliding.
From the loss of grip.
Due to the overheating.
Rather than a red icon.
:p


Man, this looks great! Definitely a newer build. The engineer offers more updates on positions:


Engineer should tell the driver to be less eager on the downshifts :o

wyldanimal
06-09-2017, 15:46
I actually learned to drift in FH3 (with a controller) and I seem to best at it powersliding in 4WD cars. :D

Now I'm curious to see how that carries over to PCARS2, probably nothing at all. :p

But I don't mind, drifting ain't my thing for the initial weeks/months anyway.

Just like many titles, have a built in action that takes over when for example your car goes off the track, then the built in crash sequence takes over.

Forza had built in Drifting sequences. So all the Forza Drifting , really were getting lots of computer assistance.

I'm sure Drifting in a Sim, will be much different than drifting in a title, where the drifting was computer assisted / simulated.

I was able to drift with ease, in NFS, DriveClub because of the built in sequences and computer assists..

But I never master Drifting in GT5 or GT6, or pCars, and I also have a difficult time drifting in Assetto Corsa.
I'm using a Wheel, and mayby I'm just not counter steering fast enough...
On the Controller, Full Lock to full lock, is just a flick of the thumb

Gethema
06-09-2017, 15:54
Gamersyde Preview #1:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-jQbsbpGvk

HQ/DL: http://gamersyde.com/hqstream_project_cars_2_preview_1-40760_en.html

Qxs
06-09-2017, 23:49
Are there any youtube videos longer than an hour, ie an hour of actual racing?
Won't matter in in a couple weeks, but I thought maybe there was a restriction on the video length...

hkraft300
07-09-2017, 00:37
Gamersyde Preview #1:


Dat tyre noise!

Konan
07-09-2017, 05:20
Are there any youtube videos longer than an hour, ie an hour of actual racing?
Won't matter in in a couple weeks, but I thought maybe there was a restriction on the video length...

There were actually a couple of videos rejected for being too long...general consensus is that not many people would take the time to watch those longer ones...

Edit: rejected by WMD...not SMS...there is no restriction on video lenghts...

Schadows
07-09-2017, 07:52
is there a limitation on replay video length?

Tank621
07-09-2017, 10:40
is there a limitation on replay video length?
...


Edit: rejected by WMD...not SMS...there is no restriction on video lenghts...

Schadows
07-09-2017, 11:28
...
I understood that comment as "there is no restriction from SMS on sharing long video" (I may be wrong but considering the context of his answer it made sense).
I'm talking about a replay length limitation directly in the game. Can I save a whole endurance race replay and not just the last 15min or so for example?

Roger Prynne
07-09-2017, 11:36
http://youtu.be/A6k1saEcTR8

Bealdor
07-09-2017, 11:36
...
I understood that comment as "there is no restriction from SMS on sharing long video" (I may be wrong but considering the context of his answer it made sense).
I'm talking about a replay length limitation directly in the game. Can I save a whole endurance race replay and not just the last 15min or so for example?

There are file size restrictions (especially on consoles) so I don't think it'll be possible to save a 24H realtime Le Mans race but you certainly won't be limited to 15mins.

Mahjik
07-09-2017, 16:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZW2wOy-7d0

Roger Prynne
07-09-2017, 20:39
http://youtu.be/Ki5ZEn9Ldow

poirqc
08-09-2017, 00:46
http://youtu.be/Ki5ZEn9Ldow

While most if this video is really nice, i couldn't look elsewhere when i saw the driver freaking out inside the car, on the replay cam! :D

David Semperger
08-09-2017, 02:20
@2:10 "Keep it clean now and on the black stuff."

Go home Ben, you're drunk. :)

Great video BTW, amazing driving.


While most if this video is really nice, i couldn't look elsewhere when i saw the driver freaking out inside the car, on the replay cam! :D

Yeah, based on the driver's body movements, he seemed like someone trying to get out of a restraining jacket, before the maniac who was driving with a remote control crashes the car. :)

Krus Control
08-09-2017, 17:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZW2wOy-7d0

It looks like the winter/snow grip levels have been lowered into the correct range. This looks incredibly realistic to me. So impressive SMS.

Konan
08-09-2017, 17:35
I can only say:


http://youtu.be/cFRk0FfaQi0

OddTimer
08-09-2017, 19:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF3myVqMu20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBzLfc30nlA

t0daY
08-09-2017, 22:10
Little coverage of the last multiplayer test event hosted by RevolutionSimRacing and SMS. Hope you enjoy it :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EiiD1g4qGI

rich1e I
10-09-2017, 15:02
Awesome, you can hear that V10 screaming. Loving it!

marcosanta8
10-09-2017, 20:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpMCc7z8jM0

Roger Prynne
10-09-2017, 22:48
^ Nice foot work.

Ian Bell
11-09-2017, 06:00
^ Nice foot work.

No, that's a Ferrari. Tah dahhhh!! I crack me up.

OddTimer
11-09-2017, 09:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpMCc7z8jM0

This looks really nice, but I noticed in the video description and then on the video comment section that the AI seems to be a lot slower in the rain than on dry weather? In this particular video the AI is @ 112%

Roger Prynne
11-09-2017, 09:23
No, that's a Ferrari. Tah dahhhh!! I crack me up.

Someones in a good mood today :D

BigDad
11-09-2017, 12:40
No, that's a Ferrari. Tah dahhhh!! I crack me up.

6 likes for this comment already ? It's not even remotely funny ! :cool:

Hows the Sim looking for release ? Will there be a day one patch ?
I preordered the Deluxe edition and am very excited ! Can you please just release it early or just give me a Steam code early ,lol

Konan
11-09-2017, 13:01
Yep,nope and nope...:cool:

RacingAtHome
11-09-2017, 13:26
No, that's a Ferrari. Tah dahhhh!! I crack me up.

How did Milton Jones hack your account?

Tank621
11-09-2017, 13:54
How did Milton Jones hack your account?

Sadly all these Belgians, Canadians and Americans probably don't know who he is

Konan
11-09-2017, 14:01
Sadly all these Belgians, Canadians and Americans probably don't know who he is

...that's when Google comes in handy...:cool:

GenBrien
11-09-2017, 14:12
checked a couple of jokes from him.
wonder how many grandfather he has? ;)

Coolerking
11-09-2017, 22:42
^ Nice foot work.

Nice socks...:rolleyes:

David Semperger
11-09-2017, 23:13
This looks really nice, but I noticed in the video description and then on the video comment section that the AI seems to be a lot slower in the rain than on dry weather? In this particular video the AI is @ 112%

Yeah, the uploader confirmed it as well. To be fair though, the driving was indeed excellent considering the track conditions.

What I also noticed, although I'm not sure how accurate this is, is that puddles mean automatic aquaplaning, or at least very little steering control. I assume these classic cars are using something similar to today's road tires, at least as far as the thread pattern is concerned. Shouldn't these handle standing water better? Legitimate question, I really don't know.

GenBrien
11-09-2017, 23:25
I guess it should apply to car tires as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFOoFkYGqL8

*love those old videos :D

David Semperger
12-09-2017, 03:51
I guess it should apply to car tires as well

Thanks, looks interesting in any case. Will watch it in full when I get home.

GenBrien
12-09-2017, 04:16
Thanks, looks interesting in any case. Will watch it in full when I get home.

at about 8:20 they put nombers for cars

Purg
12-09-2017, 06:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpMCc7z8jM0

That looks totally shagadelic, baby.

OddTimer
12-09-2017, 08:34
Yeah, the uploader confirmed it as well. To be fair though, the driving was indeed excellent considering the track conditions.

What I also noticed, although I'm not sure how accurate this is, is that puddles mean automatic aquaplaning, or at least very little steering control. I assume these classic cars are using something similar to today's road tires, at least as far as the thread pattern is concerned. Shouldn't these handle standing water better? Legitimate question, I really don't know.

yeah the driving was excellent, but he said that even at 120 he would've been faster than the AI. I think you are supposed to slow down quite a bit before you hit a puddle otherwise the car may aquaplane. Let's wait and see what the ai is like in the rain when the game releases...not much longer now.

XFR Spike
12-09-2017, 11:29
oh bother! there goes my 2017/18...

David Semperger
12-09-2017, 15:13
yeah the driving was excellent, but he said that even at 120 he would've been faster than the AI. I think you are supposed to slow down quite a bit before you hit a puddle otherwise the car may aquaplane. Let's wait and see what the ai is like in the rain when the game releases...not much longer now.

Oh I will, I have my Deluxe Steam key already. No matter how the AI drives and the rain will feel, as primarily a Time Trial guy I'm sure I will find what I'm looking for. Which car to go with first is my main concern at the moment. :)

Eugene Flerko
12-09-2017, 17:56
I guess it should apply to car tires as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFOoFkYGqL8

*love those old videos :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HekD4jhepSs

rosko
12-09-2017, 19:20
Brilliant, slightly surreal film.

FIA
14-09-2017, 00:31
All this talk of driving on the pavements, in the uk pavements are for people to walk on and it wouldn't be water that you be Aquaplaning or hydroplaning on
if your driving on them :onthego:

proterra1
17-09-2017, 16:15
Don't think this has been posted yet:

Mute this if, like me, you think it's too early for Christmas songs!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuXpRPYrFjs
PS only 99 days till Christmas!

Schadows
17-09-2017, 22:26
Don't think this has been posted yet:

Mute this if, like me, you think it's too early for Christmas songs!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuXpRPYrFjs
PS only 99 days till Christmas!Strange to see the thinner part of the snow always being in the middle of the track, and not on the racing line.

Anyway, I don't plan to do serious racing on tarmack with snowy conditions, so doesn't really matter.

FIA
18-09-2017, 03:31
This will be the whole game online on Christmas eve/day, every lobby..

MillsLayne
18-09-2017, 22:21
This will be the whole game online on Christmas eve/day, every lobby..

Oh, I'm totally planning on blasting Christmas music while I cruise around the snowy circuits.

Roger Prynne
19-09-2017, 17:32
http://youtu.be/gW5ESYLlNnk

Aletdownofstate
23-09-2017, 01:32
So much fun. Stellar job on the sequel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO0UFlt3qoI&feature=youtu.be

Aletdownofstate
23-09-2017, 22:35
Indycar feels like a massive improvement this time around. Loving Long Beach as a track too, never really driven it on anything other than Forza before, and it isn't great on there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynTjQg68AII

Aletdownofstate
24-09-2017, 12:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnJexxde6lU&t=195s

sdeups
25-09-2017, 14:07
Hi, online session Onboard

https://youtu.be/XwH2x2WJiT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwH2x2WJiT0&t=360s

frederickalonso
29-09-2017, 00:09
The Lambo is just :rolleyes:
:eagerness:

tutoo
14-11-2017, 03:22
the curbing will have less grip. Painted lines on the tracks will not be any different