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    Monitors - 21:9 / 120/144 / 1ms - 5ms / IPS / Gsync / Curve- ... advise please ?

    Current spec - i920 OC 3.4g / 6GB / 280x / Logitech G27 / Game installed on SSD drive / Monitor - Dell 2407WFP (24inch 1980x1200 - old one) on W10.

    Although perfectly driveable at mostly high settings 40-60fps Saving up my pennies to upgrade.

    Likely target CPU 6700K / 980ti / 16Gb DDR4

    Some thinking of G27 v T300RS but main confusion is whats happening with monitors these days....

    I know there will be varying opinions of what is most important to individuals and ofcourse that ultimately will apply to me but Im hoping someone out there has experience with various monitor types and has a distinct preference for Project Cars whilst also being suitable for FPS / MMOs / and typical office desktop work (MS Suite) when its a workhorse.

    Is it the right time to spend big on a monitor or is it a better time to play it safe / stay with what I have and wait for a bit (ie OLED ?)

    Im not ready for 4k yet - just a tad too demanding for now (I know 980ti can do it but I dont want to blow another 500quid a year from now to keep all the candy on the latest stuff...)

    Some options...
    1. I like the idea of 21:9 - 2560x1080 v 3440x1440 - any downsides to higher resolution (ie difficulty with icons or text to small) ??
    Assume Pros: See more on periphery
    Cons: 3440 taxing on the system (although benchmarks seem to suggest P Cars still runs very well on 3440 with a 980ti..)

    2. Just going for 27 inch IPS 2560x1440 with great screen not too many whistles and bells for now and wait for a couple of years for all this new monitor tech to settle down ?
    Worth it v the old 2407WFP ??
    Pro: Higher res - looks purdier....
    Cons: ? Will I see a little more to the sides or same as current just more pixels?

    3. Screen TN / IPS
    I do play FPS but not much and stopped being remotely skilled enough to kill anyone in them online years ago..
    So really seems IPS for P Cars is a fairly obvious choice here for the colours ?

    4. If 21:9 - worth paying extra for curve or might this just be a fad (Im really not sold on curved TV but not sure if that applies to PC desk work)..

    5. GSync / 120/144
    Seems sweet spot for gsync to do its magic is 45-60 - does appear to be a valid technology once you crank up weather etc.. then even with a 980TI ?

    Or is P Cars that amazing turning stuff down to hit the high refresh rates (smooth but plain ??)

    Anyhow just thinking out loud would love opinions especially from those with experience of some of these different techs so i can get best bang for buck in terms of all round monitor with a fairly decent weighting for Project Cars use

    Thank you very much.

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    I would have thought that the 980ti would maintain 60+ fps on any of those monitors maxed out, so the G-sync may not be such an issue. Ive had my monitor for nearly a year and Ive been very happy with it both for gaming and work. I actually use the 34" ultra wide and an old 19" lcd monitor, so you can have a web page on the smaller one and two or more big sized windows open on the main one. The dot pitch of mine is about the same as a 27" 1080p, so pixels arent invisible, but perfectly acceptable to work with.

    In pCars you get about another 15-20% view over 1080p which in real terms means you can fit in the wing mirrors comfortably on a formula car without having too wide a field of view, and you can get it pretty close to your face so it fills your field of view. It takes up much less space than a full triple monitor setup and because you are pushing fewer pixels, you dont need mega graphics power.

    I was a bit dubious before I got mine as there werent many people using them then, but Ive certainly not regretted getting it and I think Id have a hard time going back to even a 27" monitor now.
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    Thanks a lot for the feedback - sounds like 34 inch is a real contender - the dilemna now is 2560x1080 to ensure performance wont be an issue or 3440x1440 and curved or not

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    Am I right in thinking there is a semi-issue with 21:9 in pCARS currently?

    Something like the HUD is not placed by default in the screen corners?
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    Although not specifically for gaming I bought a Dell U2913WM, which is a widescreen (2560x1080) monitor.

    Whilst it may have the same vertical pixel count my older Dell U2311H (1920x1080) has, and as it turns out the same physical vertical screen size (28ish cm), it feels horrible to use. It may have more desktop size, but it feels odd the way that it's spread so wide. Even after 12 months with it now, I just don't like it for anything productive, or gaming on.

    I bought a Dell U2713H about 3 months after buying the U2913 and I'm much happier with that. I think because the screen is physically just that much bigger, although not an ultra wide screen. I've had no issues with the icons, or text sizes. It's probably been one of my better purchases over the years.

    I would say if you're looking at the ultra wides then go for the biggest you can. If I were looking for a single screen to rule in both normal PC work, and gaming I would go for something like the Dell U3415W personally:

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0body Of The Goat View Post
    Am I right in thinking there is a semi-issue with 21:9 in pCARS currently?

    Something like the HUD is not placed by default in the screen corners?
    There used to be. I'm on triples on my main rig and the HUD used to fall over the screen edges. I don't get that any more, but the game UI is a little inconsistent over the triples that's for sure.
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    General consensus is that if you go 21:9 that 1080 vertical pixels isn't enough, so go for the 3440x1440 res if you super widescreen.
    Formula 1 is boring & corrupt. Turn it off and tune into something better like FIA WEC or Blancpain GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N0body Of The Goat View Post
    Am I right in thinking there is a semi-issue with 21:9 in pCARS currently?

    Something like the HUD is not placed by default in the screen corners?
    One man's 'is there a semi-issue?' is another man's 'WTF OMFG SMS HAVE RUINED MY LIFE!!!' (I know you would count yourself as the former)

    I'll let the people decide, here's what it looks like:

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    So yes, the hud details are more like just to the side of the wheel rather than pinned to the corners, but that I would say works better because it's in your line of sight.

    When you have the telemetry screen on there is a slight issue with the circles of force:

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    Or should I say the ellipses of momentum?

    Either way you get used to it and it's no problem.
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    circles of force as opposed to ovals of force @ 5960x1080

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    or the ovoids of inertia
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    I picked up the Dell U3415W (34 inch ultrawide curved, 3440x1440) about a month ago and ive never been happier.....quite simply an outstanding monitor.

    Games scale really well, and i have no problems with icon or text sizes on windows 7.

    Easily recommend it in a heartbeat to anybody.

    Edit: Should say it replaces triples 24 inch monitors, and im using 780's in SLI......i need to update my sig....lol.
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