PCARS2 Car Setup Talk

[Roger Prynne]

Discuss your car setups here.

[blinkngone]

OK Roger, how are doing? I am trying to get all my GT3's into the 1:24's at Dubai National, the default set ups had a large range between cars which is ok, just going to try and tighten up the group. Attached is the Audi LMS, it's about 2 seconds off my best PC1 time with the Ultra. Haven't touched dampers or LSD.
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You know, there is no way to tell what car the setup belongs to, the old summary page in PC! showed the car, now you will have to make a folder for each car/track to keep track.

[Ensi Ferrum]

The Setups are stored on a per car base. Means all Setups for car A are stored in one Folder. All Setups for car B are stored in another folder.
Not the worst Approach, but far away from the best solution. At least as it is shown ingame.
To make things even worse: It is not possible to store a Setup with the same name for different tracks!
I like to name my setups "Dry_Race_nn" or "Wet_Quali_nn", etc. This isn't possible, although the are "saved" in different "folders".
In other words, something this would be perfect:

But this is the status quo:

To make this much more less understandable:
- The filenames tell us exactly nothing about the car or the track.
- The files are encrypted?


Sorry These are some design decisions I cannot understand.
Why do you make it this complicated, SMS?

[breyzipp]

As someone new to tuning I wonder what is the best place to learn it?

Should I start with a road car or a race car? Should I start with FWD, AWD, RWD?

I would assume it’s best to start in whatever car is easiest to tune right? With the least tuning options available? Otherwise the sheer amount of options is probably a bit overwhelming.

If anyone can recommend some cars and test tracks I can give it a go tonight.

Edit - can we please also have a separate forum for car setup talk?

[blinkngone]

Hi breyzipp, this is temporary, Roger put it up, eventually there will be a separate one, things are too busy now. Everyone is going to have a different opinion on where you should start. Some will push you toward road cars and others might choose a cup car. I would pick a car that has a good default set up even if it's fast(you are allowed to go slower if you want) so I would chose the GT3 Ford GT at Dubai National or Circuit of the Americas Club. The Ford has pretty good default set ups on the tracks I have runs using the PC, I am assuming the defaults will be similar in XBOX1. There are around 20,000 car/track combinations in this game, I haven't had time to test very many. If you think this car is too loose you can add more camber(this is what SMS does, look at the difference in their loose and stable set ups), it will help you in cornering and only make you slightly slower until you get better at car control. From what I have seen in the default set ups you can focus on the first 2 pages for your tuning experiments and leave the others at default until you get better/more knowledgeable.

[Jezza819]

Maybe I can try my question in here.

If I want to make a standard change to a car's setup, say reduce the fuel load, for whenever I use that car. I go in and make the change then hit "done" then "save". It brings up a menu and asks something about saving it to a new slot. I say yes and then it brings up another menu that has "tracks" over to the left and I can't remember what is in the center (I'm at work right now trying to remember all of this). In that "tracks" menu it's got "all tracks" and then below it the current track you're on. But I can't get the selector to move down there to select either one. How do you do that?

In PCars1 I believe once you made a change to a car then came out of the setup and hit save "A" was for all tracks. In PCars2 I don't see that option as specified. I've just been hitting SAVE there and it's been applying it and it shows the name of the car.

Regarding that saved setup, if I want to go back into it and change something else, come all the way back out once you've made the change, it asks you if you want to override the current slot but it shows a totally different car and track than you're currently on. Or the other option is to save to a new slot but then you have to rename it something else. I've just been using something like NSX GT3 1 since I didn't know if there was a better way.

I guess i'm asking for a tutorial on how to save a setup and then make a change to it.

[ramm21]

Pretty sad when the saving process keeps a lot of people from tuning, including myself. I just got tired of trying to tune and keep all the different changes in their right places. Sometimes I make a change and give it a new name, or try to override the current setup and keep the same name, but the change isn't saved.

Last night I was in MP, got my per lap fuel average and calculated how much I needed. I save it, then load the same file just to make sure its applied! Get ready for start of race and look down at the motec. Gas tank is full. I give up until theres a sane way of saving setups. Not sure if this was intended or if its some sort of bug but simple things shouldn't be this hard, like saving and applying a tune to a car.

Right now I just use the Loose setup and decrease tire pressures front and back and cross my fingers the game actually makes that change. I would rather finish a few spots back than rip my hair out trying to make sense of the way the game applies setups.

[Rednax97]

I completly agree. I have the same issues. I think PC1 did setups better personally as they were easier to use.

[blinkngone]

I used to use a method similar to Jezza819 but that didn't work so I added specific track abbreviations as well but that isn't 100% either. Sometimes Page 1 will save correctly but not page 2, don't know why. I could fill up this page with all the weird setup failures I have had. There have also been multiple "bug splat" crashes while testing so for a while today I was just running default and crossing fingers mostly ala ramm21. When no setups show up(only fast and loose for example or even none) on a track you know you have run many times sometimes you can retrieve them by using load then select from the track box on the left. I am going to remain hopeful this will be straightened out and PC2 will have the advantage by storing multiple setups and just to be factual after over 2 years PC1 would still have set up failures so I have nothing to lose by being patient here even if it is frustrating. Something needs to be done about the potential "shared setup function". Heck, when I go back to a track often the set up that loads is the track I was on previously not the current track so if someone came along and tried to share my set up on that/my current track they might get a set up completely unsuited for the track they are trying completely blowing the concept. I have even read where some people think they have gotten a set up from a completely different car when testing for themselves although I haven't noticed this myself. I use an asymmetric set up for Coyote Noose and if I go back to Dubai National that results in a really messed up WTF is happening run so you have to constantly check and recheck.

[Jezza819]

Pretty sad when the saving process keeps a lot of people from tuning, including myself. I just got tired of trying to tune and keep all the different changes in their right places. Sometimes I make a change and give it a new name, or try to override the current setup and keep the same name, but the change isn't saved.

Last night I was in MP, got my per lap fuel average and calculated how much I needed. I save it, then load the same file just to make sure its applied! Get ready for start of race and look down at the motec. Gas tank is full. I give up until theres a sane way of saving setups. Not sure if this was intended or if its some sort of bug but simple things shouldn't be this hard, like saving and applying a tune to a car.

Right now I just use the Loose setup and decrease tire pressures front and back and cross my fingers the game actually makes that change. I would rather finish a few spots back than rip my hair out trying to make sense of the way the game applies setups.

In PCars1 I basically abandoned LeMans because I couldn't figure out how to make a setup apply just to that track. I don't want to do that with PCars2.