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Thread: Force Feedback gets very weak after one lap

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    Haven`t checked if the wheel is clipping, but I personally think my settings are not that high. Under Intensity 60 the wheel is really, really loose and feels like it is falling of in a short time.
    I posted a video in a german Project Cars forum and a member there said, that I only have 40% FFB. Maybe that is the problem? But then again, I don't know why.

    Here is the video, maybe you can figure something out.

    Edit: Unfortunately I can not post any links due to Spam Protection. My channel is called "KarateKing28" , I only have one video up, this is the right one.

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    COMPETITIVE RACING LICENSE Infographic | FFB INFO | SAFE IS FAST
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    Thank you for posting that video. It's incredibly helpful, and helps everyone narrow down the problem.

    Your histogram indicates you're not clipping. Your graph is indicating forces mostly in the first three columns, which should be fine.

    Here's a screenshot of the histogram, in case anyone doesn't feel like watching the video:

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    Unfortunately, the only thing left to suggest is that there is a problem with your wheel. Do you play any other sim racing titles? If so, do you experience any drop off in FFB in those titles?
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    Yes, I am playing GT Sports at the moment and if I use a higher FFB than 6/10 the wheel starts to loose FFB after about 20-30 minutes.
    I also played Project CARS 1 before and never had a problem, at least not one I can remember.

    I also thought, that the wheel is overheating, but the wheel is brand new, and I play in a cold room in the basement, with forced cooling mode on. Of course there is still a chance, but if it really is overheating, than there is something wrong with the wheel.
    I already contacted the Thrustmaster Support twice but never got an answer.

    And by the way: Thank you very much for posting the video!

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    May be its the same Problem I Have with Info Flavour.
    When you start pc2 with info ffb the feedback is over strong, after driving 1 or 2 rounds it falls down to the normal Level I expected.
    Try restart session after driving a few corners, if its low after the restart than its its the same I have.
    This mostly happens after a fresh pcars2 start in the first race.
    With raw flavour this never happended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradleyland View Post
    Unfortunately, the only thing left to suggest is that there is a problem with your wheel. Do you play any other sim racing titles? If so, do you experience any drop off in FFB in those titles?
    This is right if the ffb widget is not bugged.... And my personal experience left me think that the ffb widget is sometimes bugged. I will try those 100 62 20 60 setting, to see how it feels and if the ffb widget says the same...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueValue View Post
    Yes, I am playing GT Sports at the moment and if I use a higher FFB than 6/10 the wheel starts to loose FFB after about 20-30 minutes.
    I also played Project CARS 1 before and never had a problem, at least not one I can remember.

    I also thought, that the wheel is overheating, but the wheel is brand new, and I play in a cold room in the basement, with forced cooling mode on. Of course there is still a chance, but if it really is overheating, than there is something wrong with the wheel.
    I already contacted the Thrustmaster Support twice but never got an answer.

    And by the way: Thank you very much for posting the video!
    No problem

    That pretty much confirms it. If the wheel is losing FFB in multiple titles, it has to be the wheel. Sadly, that means dealing with TM support
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    Quote Originally Posted by spacepadrille View Post
    This is right if the ffb widget is not bugged.... And my personal experience left me think that the ffb widget is sometimes bugged. I will try those 100 62 20 60 setting, to see how it feels and if the ffb widget says the same...
    I've run a really wide variety of FFB settings, and have definitely observed clipping in the FFB widget. My experience is that the FFB widget reflects the actual forces at the wheel, even in cars where the FFB is... strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueValue View Post
    My current FFB settings are:
    Informative
    Gain: 100
    Volume: 63
    Tone: 20
    FX: 65
    I just tried out the following settings:

    Informative
    Gain: 100
    Volume: 62
    Tone: 20
    FX: 60

    The weight isn't too heavy. It's really hard to visually guess (from the settings) what the weight of the FFB will be in pCARS 2, because of the interaction between Tone and Volume. Running low Tone really reduces the overall force, so high Gain and Volume are required.

    IMO, the T300RS ought to be able to handle this level of force. I think the wheel has a problem.

    Just for reference, this is how the forces are accounted for in the histogram:

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    @Bradleyland : very useful comment, thanks !

    I experienced also some ffb settings where the clipping occurs and is shown by the widget. But it happens that you feel you are obviously clipping and the widget reflects nothing...
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