PS4 players... Are we on our own?

[simsimsheree]

Just heard on another thread, someone indicated that PS4 players do not play against PC or XBox1 players, nor does any platform play against anybody but themselves.

Is this correct?

If it is, maybe I'm just blind, but I sure don't recall anything I saw on the game package in nice big print that pointed this out... But it sure goes a long way to explaining why the Online Multiplayer seems so deserted compared to GTSport. On average, not often a lot more than 80 players online at any one time. Divided by so many car classes, perhaps that is why I see this fixation with GT3! Have you all just picked that class out of a sense of community, or is it the easiest class to drive, or what?!

I'm hoping I'm wrong, but if I am, that makes Multiplayer a bit of a bust. Or am I doing something wrong in seeing all the rooms? I have no filters set.

Thank God the AI is so much better than GTS!

[FOG-Smokebeer]

You will find it hard to find ANY cross platform games ever

[PhishHead]

I think the reason you see so many people populating the GT Sport lobbies is because racers don’t have anywhere else to play the game except PS4. If that game weren’t an exclusive, the lobbies would look a lot like PC2 does across all platforms.

However, there are tons of leagues on whatever platform you prefer, racing all types of classes, perhaps looking in to a few which fit your schedule might be the way to go?

Would be awesome if, someday, Xbox and those running the game via Windows were able to race each other....one can dream!

[simsimsheree]

Having found this out, I think it is FAR more urgent than I originally thought that SMS make the initial playing experience for PC2 more noob-friendly. I don't want anything dumbed down for the advanced player, but SMS could provide FAR better stock tunes so first impressions aren't of a game that is close to uncontrollable when you first play it... We could also use some kind of Race Engineer advice on tire pressure setup that could semi-automate this incredibly complex issue.

If the PS4 player base has to be scavenged from Gran Turismo (who have basically had the whole PS base mostly to themselves for years), SMS need to ease the kids into the depths of this game a bit gentler, IMHO. It isn't good enough to look at the PC sim market, and extrapolate that to the PS4. They have had serious sims for years, and have established a large player base used to 'rolling their own'. But PS4 never really has. 99% of all PS4 players are going to have come here from GT, or other far less complex arcadey games.

Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating a simpler physics, tire model or handling model. But compare any WELL tuned car to it's SMS stock tune variant, and you realize that, if something closer to that well tuned variant were the stock tune, if some kind of 'Wizard' could pick tire pressures closer to optimal depending on track temps, a whole LOT of GTS players would stay with the game rather than running back to Gran Turismo with tales of uncontrollable cars and bad handling!

And, if it really is just us PS4 players playing with each other, we need a WHOLE lot of help from SMS to grow this rather sparse player base. Anything that eases the GT base into this game less painfully would help..! Where else they going to find them? LOL

[Daz555]

Cross platform play would be great but just looking at the Minecraft situation (where PS4 stands alone) it does not fill me with any hope that games like PC2 will be cross platform any time soon.

[Sum Dixon-Ear]

Or am I doing something wrong in seeing all the rooms? I have no filters set.

GT3 is always very popular on sim titles, relatively easy to drive, good to race, sound great, fast etc etc.

My favourite racing (just now) on pC2 is the modern touring cars... but with default online filters I'm lucky to see even 1 lobby running. Set filters to Tourers only and there are usually 4 or 5 races being run simultaneously, I never use the default lobby display now.

[IsaacAsimov2670]

...Set filters to Tourers only and there are usually 4 or 5 races being run simultaneously, I never use the default lobby display now.

Player numbers on PS4 MP also concern me... give me a rooftop and I will shout or try to convince via this forum anyone I come across that with a ltitle bit of time invested in getting to know MP and it’s intricacies it will reward in the end.

I like your suggestion ref the filter for car classes other than GT3... I haven’t tried this..I am so bored with seeing the same car class GT3 & GTE in most of the lobbies, hopefully this will help.

SMS could take a leaf out of Fortnite Royale book to encourage other racing classes by perhaps disabling GT3 for MP for a limited time...... two cents.

[Atak Kat]

It is also surprising to me to see so few online players. I cannot make any sense out of it.
PS4 is likely the top and far majority platform for PC2 sales (a guess, but most seem to agree).
It's a great game. I'm not assuming everyone wants to play online. But when you go into the lobbies and count (even refreshing the list, I never see a completely different list, so I'd estimate 20-30 lobbies is typical, and often on off-times I see less than 10 lobbies, no filters.....), you come up with a number of players that is so low it's almost impossible to comprehend.
I've often seen the lobbies down to less than one screen, with about 20-30 total players online. You can count them, it's only one screen of lobbies. Really? 30 players? Around the world? on the most popular platform for sales? It seems like such a low number it's almost impossible to comprehend.

SteamSpy has lots of interesting stats for PC users. No idea if it's accurate or not. Wish there was something similar for console.... then at least you could start to understand things a bit.

[foxymop]

"close to uncontrollable"?...
Did you play PC1 with a controller?

The racing engineer it's not bad. It's better than what we had in PC1. You can get a stable car with is help.

[Jonyvf]

We need to notice that perhaps most of the players are playing the career mode,etc.
This game have a lot of things to do and people are dispearsing in the game.
For example when i play first i go to career mode and make a race,then go to community time trial and play for half an hour and last i go to multiplayer.
This is my kind of play
But i agree that the online need more players.
And i not agree that the ganme need to be more friendly player
This game is a simulation game or near.
Most of the people play GTS because is more friendly and have a huge fanbase
But SMS have some guilty because the form they launched their game
Desapointing of some players that leave the game because the many bugs explain some people buyed GTS.
I know a lot of players who made it
We have to convince them to go back to the game.