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Thread: [PS4] Clean casual public racing host list.

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    [PS4] Clean casual public racing host list.

    For those of us with either insufficient time to join a League, or a schedule that prevents regular participation, the hardest thing in PC2 is finding a clean public room unless you already know the host, and already know he runs a tight ship.

    Would it be a good idea to have a simple, common set of rules, and a common set of host practices, and a list of players willing to run casual rooms that way?

    This was how we built quite a large, very clean casual racing community in GT5/6. We all ran the same basic rules, but tracks and cars varied wildly to offer variety and interest. Another element of our success was the commitment by hosts more towards hosting the cleanest rooms, rather than concentrating on being first and winning! You often are oblivious to how bad things are at the back and mid-pack if you always run in the top 3...

    The PS4's short replay save system on PC2 makes stewarding after the fact difficult on longer races, so hosting from the back or mid-pack gives you a far better view of whether race rules are being broken, and general room etiquette.

    We had a VERY simplified set of rules, derived from the WRC and SNAIL OLR, and we ran primarily with penalties off (I think most of us realize how inconsistent and stupid the slowdown penalty system is) for best realism. Basically, you could boil the rules down to three big ones...

    ALL contact on the car ahead, if it results in a pass, is penalized only by returning the position. Yes, the usual 1/2 car overlap inside before turn in gives you apex rights, and once achieved, it is the inside car's responsibility to avoid contact on exit. But to simplify things, we pretty much made it any dirty pass, the only penalty is return position (where safe to do so).

    Only ONE block move (no weaving). Pretty standard, there.

    Any cuts or 4 off excursions that result in a pass, return the position.

    Just those three pretty much cleaned up the casual racing, by taking away any advantage from contact or cut.

    All participants were expected to penalize themselves, and witnesses to players violating the rules were to report at race end, and the violator be outed and warned or kicked after the race.

    It was amazing how just those three simple, easy to understand rules cleaned up GT5/6 from the demolition derby that is most of PC2's public online now into some of the best, most exciting racing I have yet had. We need something like this on PS4/PC2 badly. But one of the things that made it easy in GT5/6 is missing from PC2... Room titles. It was easy to find each other 24/7 by simply naming the room 'ProClean or Kick' etc..

    We can't do this in PC2 (only PC players get that advantage). So, somewhere we need a list of hosts willing to host clean public races with a standardized system.

    Who is willing to do this? Any comments? Ideas?

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    Let me lay out a few basic host responsibilities.

    Firstly, host is responsible for kicking violators of rules after an accepted number of warnings. I usually gave everyone new to the club one or two chances to mess up. Then a kick for a repeated violation. Remember, the only penalty is returning position, so that is something even the least skilled driver can easily do! It isn't being harsh to kick someone unwilling to return a position...

    Host is responsible for keeping a block list of repeated and unrepentant rammers and bashers, and to kick on sight.

    Host is responsible for choosing tracks and cars within the ability level of most of the room. No faster way to kill a room than to pick races only the very best can race safely! Same with weather conditions, and day/night cycle. The idea is to build the room, not do your favorite niche... Host can either ask for a track vote, or give previous race's winner the choice. But giving the winner the car choice tends to lead to the most skilled drivers picking car groups they know the less skilled can't handle, and there goes the room, again!

    Host is also responsible for picking race lengths the majority of the room can handle. Casual rooms, you often lose participation with race distances over 20-30 miles (pack is usually spread too thin by then for it to be anything other than hotlapping!), but if the room stays close, upping it is an option.

    Host (and all members) have a responsibility to report any lag seen. Any lag deemed unsafe to race around, the problematic car is offered the opportunity to quit the room, reset modem or do what might mitigate the issue and return, but if it remains, is asked to quit the room. If refused, player is kicked.

    None of this is anything unusual, I guess... Without getting too anal, the idea is basically quasi-league level hosting, but in a public format. None of which is too onerous for anyone already prepared to host. The only difference is the standardized simple rules and host etiquette...

    Any ideas?
    Last edited by simsimsheree; 26-05-2018 at 20:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simsimsheree View Post
    Let me lay out a few basic host responsibilities.

    Firstly, host is responsible for kicking violators of rules after an accepted number of warnings. I usually gave everyone new to the club one or two chances to mess up. Then a kick for a repeated violation. Remember, the only penalty is returning position, so that is something even the least skilled driver can easily do! It isn't being harsh to kick someone unwilling to return a position...

    Host is responsible for keeping a block list of repeated and unrepentant rammers and bashers, and to kick on sight.

    Host is responsible for choosing tracks and cars within the ability level of most of the room. No faster way to kill a room than to pick races only the very best can race safely! Same with weather conditions, and day/night cycle. The idea is to build the room, not do your favorite niche... Host can either ask for a track vote, or give previous race's winner the choice. But giving the winner the car choice tends to lead to the most skilled drivers picking car groups they know the less skilled can't handle, and there goes the room, again!

    Host is also responsible for picking race lengths the majority of the room can handle. Casual rooms, you often lose participation with race distances over 20-30 miles (pack is usually spread too thin by then for it to be anything other than hotlapping!), but if the room stays close, upping it is an option.

    Host (and all members) have a responsibility to report any lag seen. Any lag deemed unsafe to race around, the problematic car is offered the opportunity to quit the room, reset modem or do what might mitigate the issue and return, but if it remains, is asked to quit the room. If refused, player is kicked.

    None of this is anything unusual, I guess... Without getting too anal, the idea is basically quasi-league level hosting, but in a public format. None of which is too onerous for anyone already prepared to host. The only difference is the standardized simple rules and host etiquette...

    Any ideas?
    With the lag it could be the person noticing it who is actually lagging lagging, not the person who gets spotted lagging.

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